Targeted to Die - Anthony Hilder

Mick West

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For one reason or another Hilder has gone totally off the deep end.

Like here, he quite seriously discusses how Pepsi grinds up roasted human fetuses to add to their drinks:



So he's either deeply deluded, or deeply trolling. Unfortunately there's no polite way of putting it. My feeling is that it's simply best to ignore him, as his extreme positions marginalize him without any help needed.

If he would ever put out something that people take seriously, then pointing to his previous work should give them perspective. Ask them to verify what he says with other sources.
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member
Referring to Hilder in "Targeted to Die":

Comedian? A very specialised schtick, he has there. He is very knowledgeable about all this; encyclopaedic!

Brilliant performance. I loved the Alcatraz link. "Ted Turnrerhead" "globaloni" So funny.

Oh! Another person in sunnys?

And the dog shit again! LOL

"Rocketfella" "Communiass" "Sin Fransisco"

Priceless... a must watch.
 

RolandD

Active Member
I'm sorry if this is offensive, and Mick is welcome to remove this if he sees fit, but people like this are mentally ill. I don't understand why we have to be so delicate about it. They are delusional and need treatment.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
I'm sorry if this is offensive, and Mick is welcome to remove this if he sees fit, but people like this are mentally ill. I don't understand why we have to be so delicate about it. They are delusional and need treatment.
At some point you really can't argue with an assessment like that. However it's still best to avoid discussing mental illness in any context where it might "spill over". Some people believe in chemtrails, Hilder believes in chemtrails, he seems (to most people) to be mentally ill, but then does that mean everyone who believes in chemtrails is mentally ill? Even if you don't think that, common faulty logic is going to lead to some people getting that impression.

If you are going to start exploring the topic of mental health, you have to look at the net benefit. I'm trying to debunk by polite respectful engagement. With Hilder I choose not to engage him because he's so extreme he seems crazy. What would be the benefit of calling him out if he's not having any real impact?
 

JRBids

Senior Member
Referring to Hilder in "Targeted to Die":

Comedian? A very specialised schtick, he has there. He is very knowledgeable about all this; encyclopaedic!

Brilliant performance. I loved the Alcatraz link. "Ted Turnrerhead" "globaloni" So funny.

Oh! Another person in sunnys?

And the dog shit again! LOL

"Rocketfella" "Communiass" "Sin Fransisco"

Priceless... a must watch.
I thought it was humorous myself. It was like some kind of sci fi comedy. I kept thinking it looks like some old hippie with died hair interviewing one of the ladies from Absolutely Fabulous. Oh, wait, perhaps it WAS the ACTOR name Joanna Lumley playing Deborah Tavares. (Channeling Ed Chiaraini here. :) )

Incarcerated in their homes by electromagnetic grids?! (WTF?!) Thousands getting sick and dying?! (You'd think someone would notice). And you're right, the terminology was a gem.
 

captfitch

Active Member
Ok- that seems too over the top. Has it been really determined that he is not trying to troll everyone? It sort of reminds me of Andy Kaufman. He was willing to offend in the name of sticking to the joke. Maybe this guy is willing to scare in the name of sticking to the act? We're all the links real?
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member
Anthony Hilder is what will happen to any conspiracy theorist who truly exists down in the rabbit hole for about forty years. That is the way it works, it causes a loss of perspective, a hunger for more extremes that always needs feeding with a higher dose which drives people insane, eventually.

Stan Deyo in Australia is another example.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
I think we can all agree he seems a bit crazy. the question for debunkers though is: what, if anything, should be done about it? Should we point at him and say "look how crazy this guy is", should we take him seriously and attempt to calmly debunk his theories, or should be ignore him?

I feel that the best thing to do is ignore him, unless he actually gets some traction somewhere. If a theory is limited to just a handful of people, there's not a lot to gain from debunking it. And bringing up the mental health issue is tricky, as it might alienate some people who are more marginal.
 

JRBids

Senior Member
I think we can all agree he seems a bit crazy. the question for debunkers though is: what, if anything, should be done about it? Should we point at him and say "look how crazy this guy is", should we take him seriously and attempt to calmly debunk his theories, or should be ignore him?

I feel that the best thing to do is ignore him, unless he actually gets some traction somewhere. If a theory is limited to just a handful of people, there's not a lot to gain from debunking it. And bringing up the mental health issue is tricky, as it might alienate some people who are more marginal.
I think it's kind of like Ed Chiarini, it's so absurd it isn't worth debunking.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
They used a cell line HEK-292 that is derived from the kidney cells of a single aborted fetus in the 1970s. This was just used in the development of flavor enhancers, and does not not go in the drink. They are not even fetal cells, the fetal cells were used to start the line 40 years ago, and now the cells are something very different from what they started out as. HEK-293 has been used in research ever since, for literally thousands of reasons.

This is vastly different from Hilder saying they use ground up dead babies as an ingredient in Pepsi.
 
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