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Washington Post article today:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/
Washington Post article today:
Didn't find a better place for this ...
Washington Post article today:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/
Someone is stirring up 4Chan (and some regions of Twitter) by posting various predictions of a coming "storm" of political change - strongly favoring Trump.
That's from last year. He's not referring to any conspiracy theory, that's the comment that started the whole "storm" QAnon theory.Trump weighs in conspiratorially: "It's the calm before the storm." (1:05)
A follow-up opinion piece by the WaPo today. I'm beginning to worry a bit. [/EX]
heck I could post anonymously on chan4 and sign it "Q". I don't get this whole thing.
Presumably the 4chan admins could fake some posts though.There is a recognized "genuine" Q tripcode, not just anyone can post some cryptic baloney and be accepted as Q.
I do know a former 4chan admin I used to work with, he actually got kicked off by other admins because he habitually mass-banned everybody in pizzagate threads. I'll have to ask him if it's possible for admins to fake or change a tripcode.Presumably the 4chan admins could fake some posts though.
Seems to be, but there's no consolidated list of "authentic" Q sources in the sane portion of the internet and I've already got too much of a migraine to dig into the kind of places one might be found.Is QAnon76 considered to be the same person?
https://twitter.com/qanon76
I disagree completely. It has been mentioned in the news and that's kind of it. This is where the pizzagate believers ended up. They weren't a major factor in the last election.Intetesting. The Qanon movement has reached critical mass I think. It is a force to contend with. It may be criticized as being unusual, fringe, etc. but will have impact.
The midterm elections I think will see the Q factor felt by both parties.
No it hasn't. It has passed flat earth as the most popular search term."Qanon" is now passing "flat earth" as the most popular conspiracy hypothesis. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=flat earth,Qanon
No it hasn't. It has passed flat earth as the most popular search term.
Anyone who wanted to know what QAnon is would use it for a search term. It doesn't mean they believe it. A better way would be to measure how many people believe it.Yes. But do you know of a more accurate way to gauge the popularity of conspiracy theories, than the most popular conspiracy search term on the most popular search engine? Practically speaking, how might this not be a fair assessment?
My point is to distinguish the significance of a trend for debunkers to be aware of.
Who, Where and How would you ask that?Anyone who wanted to know what QAnon is would use it for a search term. It doesn't mean they believe it. A better way would be to measure how many people believe it.
News organizations do this all the time. You can find polls on how many people believe 9/11 was done by the government for example. The fact that it hasn't been done yet for this should tell you everything you need to know. http://amp.timeinc.net/time/5356851/what-is-qanonWho, Where and how would you ask that?
Yes. But do you know of a more accurate way to gauge the popularity of conspiracy theories, than the most popular conspiracy search term on the most popular search engine? Practically speaking, how might this not be a fair assessment?
My point is to distinguish the significance of a trend for debunkers to be aware of.
But largely temporary. It's rooted in the events of the day. When it becomes increasingly clear that the underlying theory (Trump was put in power by the military to counter a deep state coup run by pedophiles and he is dropping clues on 4chan to give people hope) does not pan out, it will just mutate and fade away into a niche. I'm sure there's some people that still think that Jade Helm was a NWO takeover plot, but it's not something you hear about any more.I agree Mick. It has a broad appeal.
That's a bit vague. Those arrests tend to come in waves when rings are busted.What if there is confirmation of some of the claims; as in a larger than normal number of arrests regarding child trafficking, for example?
1. you would have to find actual numbers over the years.What if there is confirmation of some of the claims; as in a larger than normal number of arrests regarding child trafficking, for example?
You also see isolated spikes in arrests for this kind of crime just like drugs or adult human trafficking or gangs or wire fraud. You get the right person in the organization and they drag down their whole chain. So year to year changes aren't enough to establish a trend.3. Even if you find the numbers in 201 slightly were larger than 2016, you still don't really know if they just finally decided to crack down more. Police do those kinds of things all the time. NY city at some point finally said "ok enough is enough, we need to start seriously cracking down on violent crime", so they did.
there is also a difference between arrests and convictions. According to the White House website, they had less convictions in 2017 than they did in 2015.You also see isolated spikes in arrests for this kind of crime just like drugs or adult human trafficking or gangs or wire fraud. You get the right person in the organization and they drag down their whole chain. So year to year changes aren't enough to establish a trend.
You have to distinguish between the popularity of a conspiracy theory in terms of interest in that theory and belief in that theory.
Flat Earth is NOT a popular theory in terms of believers. It probably only less than 1% of a popular broad theory like "9/11 was an inside job."
... I think it has broad appeal to conspiracy theorists of all stripes so it will tend to rope in everyone
Not really. My initial post stated "popular conspiracy hypothesis" which includes interest and belief. I think the clarity of my point may be nitpicked, when it is really understood well enough.
Based on what?
I maintain that a Google trend is a fair gauge for the popularity of a conspiracy theory. Do you know of a more accurate survey?
Polls tend to be taken from relatively small groups. Stats indicate that nearly half the world population uses the internet daily. And 75% of searches are thru Google. https://www.smartinsights.com/search-engine-marketing/search-engine-statistics/ 2013 stats show that number to be about 1.17 billion Google searches. https://www.statista.com/chart/899/unique-users-of-search-engines-in-december-2012/ I do not see a way to compare the actual number of specific search terms.
But Google Trends shows that "flat earth" far outstrips 9-11 conspiracy in search popularity.
https://trends.google.com/trends/ex...th,/m/043yvr,/m/07vxlr,9/11 was an inside job
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All these conspiracy hypothesis mentioned do fall under what is certainly the broadest conspiracy belief in a nefarious "they" controlling everything, that must be a comforting focus for those who may feel understandably confused and helpless in such a technically and politically complex world.
Based on my observations of 9/11 groups and Flat Earth groups. All Flat Earthers are 9/11 Inside Jobbers. But I've yet to see a 9/11 Truth group member who will admit to being at Flat Earther.Based on what?
I maintain that a Google trend is a fair gauge for the popularity of a conspiracy theory. Do you know of a more accurate survey?
It is, surely?