PR-48 INDOPACO, 2024 (Wind Farm + Dot Changing Apparent Direction)

[Todd Feinman]

I give up, I can't find that bloody windmill farm!!

Did Trump have it torn down?!
<edit> grinds teeth into powder..

 

[ThomasH]

Did Trump have it torn down?!

I think so!
It's not the the "Indo" area, I've searched everywhere

 

[jjjdanny]

The lack of consistent rows in the first field could be a sign that it was under construction at the time. If so it would be very hard to locate. I'm going to check again looking specifically for one with consistent rows of 3+ turbines next to another and checking the dates as can be found.

 

[MapperGuy]

But bear in mind that birds are well insulated! Looking at thermal imagery of birds, they sometimes appear pretty hot, sometimes pretty cold, though often with hot spots where they lack feathers (feet, eyes, beak).
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This variability may have to do with how the camera/processor is adjusted (gain, I think I'm using that word correctly here!), how much the bird is fluffing its feathers to retain or release heat, how cold the air around it is, how hot or cold the background is and other factors I haven't considered.

My son and I tried to get some IR footage of birds in flight with his drone, but did not get anything useful -- maybe it is time to try again. But we'd not be able to match a bird at that altitude anyway, and that might be a factor -- a bird gliding at altitude where the air is cold is going to be doing all it can to retain body heat, and the outer surface of the feathers is going to be chilled by cold air blowing across them!

Said all that to say this -- I'd not rule out a bird just because it's cold in the image.

This is a topic that needs study.
Birds thermal signature from below and above could also be much different. From below it is being contrasted with the sky temperature, from below with the ground or water surface temperature.
Size of bird might also influence signatures, hummingbirds have smaller wings compared with something like an albatross. So a soaring bird over the sea would be mostly visible from above as wing surface (no warm feet as in the example here).

 

[Ravi]

The white is "cold" expression can be somewhat misleading. "Cold" could be just some degrees difference to "hot", as the scale can be arbitrary be set. I believe the option of a bird is still open.

 

[Mick West]

The white is "cold" expression can be somewhat misleading. "Cold" could be just some degrees difference to "hot", as the scale can be arbitrary be set. I believe the option of a bird is still open.

Exactly, if this video is black=hot, (BHT) that really just means black is warmer than what is next to it on screen. So, if we've got a sunlit metal pylon next to a bird at 9,000 feet, then the bird could look white.


I think, like with GoFast, I'd put "bird" as the #2 hypothesis. The thermal contrast issue is unresolved. It's also not clear if this is SWIR or MWIR, which makes quite a difference.

 

[Giddierone]

I think so!
It's not the the "Indo" area, I've searched everywhere

There must be some error because there are no turbine fields in INDOPAC that have around 60 turbines and are 3 or 4 turbines wide, but there are two off the shores of Denmark...

Make me wonder if the video is even real.

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