I wonder if this is the same sort of analysis that led these same people to think the Aguadilla UFO video shows a transmedium craft going in an out of water at high speed.
Imagine how much easier it would be for the public (and even other pilots and people in the military), if the sightings and sensor captures of other balloons that this guy refers to were better catalogued and made available for educational purposes. Part of the difficulty is just finding footage replicating the conditions people are talking about.
The last few seconds of his TikTok shows another similar balloon with things hanging down.
Yup. And almost certainly hot enough to glow when it's dark. Everything points against this being the explanation.
He's slightly hamstrung himself by filming in non-laminar air-currents, that back wall is clearly setting up eddies that shake his baloons around a bit. Had his demonstration been performed in a similar environment to the original, it would have looked much more like the original.
Let's sort things out.Great video! Except I don't think I agree there are no turbulent forces acting on the UAP. The flag in the UAP video is moving quite a bit (We can see this extremely clearly btw, is the video focused on the ground, not the UAP?).
In your real life example it it shows that the dangling banner of you balloons that imitates streamers is moving a lot.
If we take the banner out, and just look at the weighted object that is holding the balloons in place, it creates the classic V shape of something holding balloons in place. (A)
The UAP (B) has more of a rectangle shape... certainly a strange one.
(C) is what I thought it could be made up of, maybe it's some weird makeshift surveillance drone? And like, under the ballons are cameras on a short tether, creating a taught non moving shape?
That's my best guess at what it could be, if it were balloons I don't see how it would make that shape unless it had streamers, which I think we'd see changing shape in the video.
Yes! I've pondered how you'd experimentally generate very close comparison images -- you'd pretty much need a drone pacing a free-floating balloon cluster at their equilibrium altitude (outdoors, of course, so you have more variation in the environmental radiation than gym walls, ceiling, and floors).
He is filming a "jellyfish" balloon which appears to have flimsy Mylar streamers, very susceptible to tiny currents, whereas the OP object looks as if the dangling bits are more substantial.
I suspect it is still rising through the air a bit. Watching the whole of the video where he's flying around the balloon, it also seems to get hit by air pushed around by the drone a couple of times.
This is a bunch of balloons, not a single balloon. Some, or many, of these balloons appear to be oddly-shaped novelty balloons as well. That makes matching the shape effectively impossible.
It's noteworthy that these balloon letters have an interesting property where the volume does not increase enough in ratio to the surface area or material that makes up the balloon. The 16 inch tall ones will not float even when filled with helium, so they are sold as "air fill only" so money isn't wasted on the helium to fill them. They are manufactured between 16 to 40 inches tall. I've seen 16 inch, ~24, ~34 and 40 inch at the tallest. Think of them like font sizes.@Eburacum already posted them, #35 and #42. Please read the whole thread and don't make people keep repeating themselves.
Can you provide a source for that? Just for completeness's sake.
Experience in the industry. I can't really prove it to you aside from challenging you to find Mylar letter balloons taller than 40-inches. In North American mass markets it wasn't a thing.
Are you saying that the objects in question are emitting a thermal signature significantly deviating from ambient?
If I've overlooked it, my apologies, but do we have an appropriate date this video was taken, and has anyone looked for a correlation between the date of the video and the date of Eid? (Best I could find for the video date was Corbell's claim of Oct 2018.)A random collection of Eid balloons might explain the strange shape.
This might just be a curious accident, a random escape of drifting balloons, or a deliberate hoax.
I'm not convinced by my own graphic here, but it doesn't seem entirely impossible.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/eid...-important-dates-all-you-need-to-know-1899278Eid-ul-Adha, which is known as the 'festival of sacrifice', is the second most important festival in the Muslim calendar. Eid-ul-Adha is celebrated as a public holiday in Muslim countries. Eid-ul-Adha for the year 2018 will be celebrated on August 22.
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Source: https://eid.day/Eid al-Fitr occurs at the end of Ramadan. After an entire month of fasting and extra prayer, Muslims are sad to bid Ramadan and its spiritual atmosphere good-bye, but also excited to celebrate their efforts with a holiday.
Eid al-Adha coincides with the Hajj pilgrimage...
We're looking down on the unknown object. If we want to assume maximum size, we assume the furthest possible distance from the camera. If it's just barely scraping the rooftops, then it's about a door frame in height (see 0:22 in the video you link here). 2 meters is about the upper end of its possible size.
to me the lower right "leg" looks like it hads something wrapped around it, I had thought it was tinsel when I suspected this might be a Christmas or New Year Balloon. does anyone else see that...?
You didn't use the reply button, but I assume this was in response to my post #466. And yes, I also found references explaining two Eids and lunar calendars etc. I looked at both (Eid al-Fitr was mid May-mid June 2018), but went with Eid-al-Adha in my thought process because my source (as posted in #466) called Eid-ul-Adha the "second most important festival in the Muslim calendar." I also found several other sources that called it "one of" the most important festivals.
The largest an object in an image can be is the size of something it covers behind it. It cannot be larger than that.
We have discussed this at length. A balloon that it not rising or falling (it has found an equilibrium) is just going to go along with the wind. If that wind isn't turbulent, there is no reason the balloon should appear to rotate or wobble. Here's an example I linked earlier showing a balloon with dangly arms and legs appear very still in the air:
There is only like 5 seconds of continuous video. This is not very strong evidence. Show me a balloon/cluster video not wobbling in the wind that is longer than 5 sec and I may be persuaded.
