J.Marvin Herndon tries to pass off Bird Poop as evidence of "chemtrail" spraying

deirdre

Senior Member.
In a newly published paper, J. Marvin Herndon claims a black substance that fell from the sky in Harrison Township Michigan is proof of "chemtrails"
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he also tries to infer the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality testing confirms his results
[BUNK]
The material
was also sampled and analyzed by officials from
the Michigan Department of Environmental
Quality. Here I report the results of those
analyses, which provide evidence of a deliberate
operation to melt ice and snow, which is
consistent with the hypothesis that aerosolized
coal fly ash is being used to deliberately enhance
global warming [13,22,23].

....
Samples of the “air-drop material” were collected
by Harrison Township, Michigan (USA) resident
Paul Schlutow on his property
[/BUNK]
http://www.journalrepository.org/media/journals/JGEESI_42/2017/Jan/Herndon912016JGEESI30834.pdf
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But M.D.E.Q. says the tests show it is birdpoop.
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birds, gotta love em (this pic not from Michigan)
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Mick West

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The black poop is probably a seasonal thing, and related to local vegetation or migration, so not seen all the time. Similar accounts of confusion exist:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/san-antonio/1206674-bird-droppings-black.html
On Google street view there is what looks like a Japanese privet bush directly across the narrow street from his driveway. So you've got the likely scenario of birds eating the berries, then sitting in the large tree over his truck, and pooping.

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Japanese Privet


Note also this post about the black bird poop and the Harrison event are both in February (actually both about Feb 14th) so very consistent in terms of seasonal berry bird poop.
 
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Mick West

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Some more black bird poop from berries in winter.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2013/02/08/morris-birds-plus-berries-equals-a-winter-mess/
And an amusing account of a similar bush -> tree situation in february
http://www.foxywinepocket.com/2014/04/15/the-pooping-tree/
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Mick West

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How is Herndon claiming the poop was "accidentally released by an aircraft?"
http://www.journalrepository.org/media/journals/JGEESI_42/2017/Jan/Herndon912016JGEESI30834.pdf
[bunk]On or about February 14, 2016, an aircraft presumably operating out of Selfridge Air National Guard Base in Michigan (USA) momentarily released a small portion of its payload which reportedly fell on residential properties in Harrison Township, Michigan (USA). On February 14, 2016, a resident of Harrison Township noticed a strange substance that had apparently fallen from a passing aircraft and that had landed on at least seven homes and several vehicles [/bunk]

He says "momentarily released a small portion of its payload" as if he knows this happened. Yet nobody observed such a thing. His statement is highly misleading.
 

Mick West

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Especially since the guy washed his truck four times:
This is consistent with birds pooping for a few days while they eat the berries. It's not consistent with a single accidental release from an aircraft of fake glacier de-icer.
 
I live a little bit further south in Michigan and while I cannot confirm chembirds, I have noticed that every day I put sunflower seeds in a tube before I go to work and when I return home there are only shells on the driveway. I suspect aliens, or ghosts. I will observe this weekend to get to the bottom of the matter.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
So you've got the likely scenario of birds eating the berries, then sitting in the large tree over his truck, and pooping.
the boat too. is next to a tree.
Video also shows poop on the front steps of the blue house (next to the fir tree) across the street from him.

a plane dropping anything probably wouldnt have missed the part of the boat not under a tree.
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skephu

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Actually it seems that Herndon knew about the MDEQ's conclusion that the material is bird poop. He quotes the MDEQ findings:
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He then omits the next sentence from the MDEQ analysis: "The sample is consistent with bird scat containing fruit remains".

Probably a deliberate omission.
 

cmnit

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Just found the link on Italian "tankerenemy" blog:
http://sciencedomain.org/review-history/17665

This time Herndon's refereed paper appears on J of Geography, Environment, and Earth Sciences International, published online by an institution called "Science Domain International".

The referees and their comments are open, contrary to stardard practice. I noted among them the name of Scafetta, a well known negationist of anthropogenic climate change (I still have to read those comments).
 

Ray Von Geezer

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In fairness to Scafetta, from the review notes he doesn't seem convinced, he just seems to.... give up.

Ray Von
 
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Gabriel Incertis

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Did you read the peer-reviewing history of this article? It is both interesting and discouraging. Herndon can say that his article is actually peer-reviewed although his conclusions are clearly based upon a non-scientifically proven statement. The two Nigerian reviewers only point out minor or formal things while the Italian one is more conclusive with his objections. After some minor changes this reviewer laconically agrees with the publication of the article.
 
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cmnit

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A short extract from the revised manuscript, line 105-6:
This is amenable to "denuncia per diffamazione" in an Italian court.
 

skephu

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Nicola Scafetta has published a comment on Herndon's paper, pointing out that the material in question is bird poop:
http://www.sciencedomain.org/abstract/18488
 

Mick West

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Nicola Scafetta has published a comment on Herndon's paper, pointing out that the material in question is bird poop:
Quite a detailed 5 page comment! Here's the conclusion.

http://www.journalrepository.org/media/journals/JGEESI_42/2017/Apr/Scafetta932017JGEESI32479.pdf
 

skephu

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Herndon has published yet another paper in JGEESI:
http://www.sciencedomain.org/abstract/22144
The interesting thing is that the main message of the paper is that mercury in rainwater is increasing. But looking at the tables and figures in the paper, it appears Herndon performed analyses for many elements EXCEPT mercury. He measures other elements, decides there must be coal fly ash in the rainwater, and as we know coal fly ash also contains mercury, so the rainwater must contain it as well. But he did not measure it!

The reviews are public, and one of the reviewers is Eric S. Hall, probably identical to this EPA scientist:
https://www.epa.gov/sciencematters/meet-epa-scientist-eric-s-hall

If so, it's quite strange that he approved this manuscript, only making a few minor edits.
 

Trailblazer

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The interesting thing is that the main message of the paper is that mercury in rainwater is increasing. But looking at the tables and figures in the paper, it appears Herndon performed analyses for many elements EXCEPT mercury. He measures other elements, decides there must be coal fly ash in the rainwater, and as we know coal fly ash also contains mercury, so the rainwater must contain it as well. But he did not measure it!
That's pretty astonishing. Do any reviewers actually read papers any more?

Environmental who, you say?

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Me2

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Wasn't the problem supposed to be aluminum, barium, and strontium? When did coal ash and mercury become the spray of the day?
 
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