MonkeeSage
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Geolocation Exercises
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Found it through Googling various combinations of the letters which led me to YEDIBOU and then onto this webpage that gave me the country and a village with a similar name...
https://www.anciens-cols-bleus.net/t9892p30-flottille-33-f
and then scanning around in Goggle Maps i found this
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Yebbibou,+Chad/@20.9132393,18.157052,6957m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x1158d35f5aefc09f:0xed0f5650b92b2296!8m2!3d20.966667!4d18.066667!16s/g/11bc71lndy?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcwNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==
https://www.anciens-cols-bleus.net/t9892p30-flottille-33-f
and then scanning around in Goggle Maps i found this
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Yebbibou,+Chad/@20.9132393,18.157052,6957m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x1158d35f5aefc09f:0xed0f5650b92b2296!8m2!3d20.966667!4d18.066667!16s/g/11bc71lndy?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcwNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==
MonkeeSage
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Nice you got it! So the words apparently say "YEBI-BOU" which a region in Republic of Chad, Africa. It had some history during the 1970's and it's pretty much a desert.
Kyle Ferriter
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This one's kind of interesting. Also shows a big difference in the definition of the shape and arc boundary on the left hand side in the Apple Maps one, and the vertical stitching boundary in the Google Earth one.
At least to me, the Apple Maps version almost looks like the shape is 3D, like above ground level, as if there was a drop shadow.
(e.g.)
Google Earth:
Apple Maps:
At least to me, the Apple Maps version almost looks like the shape is 3D, like above ground level, as if there was a drop shadow.
(e.g.)
Google Earth:
Apple Maps:
Kyle Ferriter
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Ah well that makes it easier
Here's one that's driving me crazy and I need help with. This photo is from a Facebook group I'm a member of that helps find locations of old photographs in the UK, but frequently it comes up with ex-RAF photos from around WW2 and they can be anywhere in NorthWestern Europe.
We have a canal or river, some barges, a 'barge waiting area'. an industrial location with two cooling towers, a gas tank, a railway yard,some very flat terrain with narrow fields.
Any ideas?
We have a canal or river, some barges, a 'barge waiting area'. an industrial location with two cooling towers, a gas tank, a railway yard,some very flat terrain with narrow fields.
Any ideas?
thats the challenge. I'm guessing the canal & railway (or remnants of it) will still be there.
Mendel
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Any chance of aquiring a digital reproduction with fewer artifacts?
This the the original the I have. I think the lower half of the photo is the plane wing.
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The long thin field pattern is quite characteristic of the Netherlands too.
jarlrmai
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The IBCC aerial archive seems to be specifically photos taken as aerial photos (ie top down mappinh shots) I am not seeing any sort of candids from the cockpit type images in there.
One would think a reverse image search with International Bomber Command would work for the image though..
One would think a reverse image search with International Bomber Command would work for the image though..
Mendel
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wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be in the Ruhrgebiet in Germany, it traditionally had lots of industry and mining (coal! -> power plant) and thus lots of railway infrastructure and canals.
But anywhere in Northern Germany might fit (e.g. on the Mittellandkanal).
Flarkey's image is not in Pending identification. Places & aerial photograph
https://ibccdigitalarchive.lincoln....bcollections=1&submit_search=Search+for+items
and it's not in Pending geolocation .
https://ibccdigitalarchive.lincoln....xactly&advanced[0][terms]=Pending+geolocation
I did find one image that has a similar mark at the bottom:
Flarkey:
https://ibccdigitalarchive.lincoln.ac.uk/collections/document/41050
I wonder if Flarkey's image shows any damage.
Was the redacted name A*** P****o? ..? if so that's the poster of the FB image.
jarlrmai
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I only have given name, but it matches that template.
Kyle Ferriter
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Is it definitely in Europe? Those long thin field patterns are also characteristic of southern Louisiana, USA, especially along rivers. There are multiple US air bases within a few hundred miles of there that were active during WW2. Like Eglin, Ellington, Keesler, Maxwell. Louisiana also has the Mississippi river and a number of bayou/canals. e.g.
Mendel
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your image is full of straight lines that are absent in the image we're examining
Dors anyone know what these are? (top center)
Giddierone
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Pretty sure it's the Netherlands or Belgium in the 1940s. Looks very flat, white buildings and light roads with snaking curves, very straight broad canal, thin strips of farmland etc.
There's a ton of historical aerial photos here: https://library.wur.nl/WebQuery/geoportal/raf but the search function is limited so this will only be useful once the site is geolocated...
Is that a rail sorting yard below the cooling towers? If so it might appear as an industrial service track on https://openrailwaymap.org/
Also looks like either a coast or broad natural river in the distance.
Mendel
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MonkeeSage
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Does this kind of water feature on the side of the canal have a name? Some kind of dock or mooring area? It looks like it's at least partially separated from the canal with trees and buildings on land (the strip toward our middle right) and then maybe movable floating barriers or something (toward our top left). Might help searching if there is a specific name for it, and might still have a chance of looking similar today.
wachtplassen - ? although I expect this area is probably used as a marina nowadays.
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Mendel
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There's also trees on the left, and a drawbridge in the center where the gap between ships is. I don't think there's anything movable.
I don't see a lock, so it's a waiting area for a coal mine (empty barges) or the power station (full barges) or just a port?
If the need for that waiting area went away (e.g. because the power plant was converted to oil, or decommissioned), it's quite possible that the basin was reclaimed and developed. Likewise, the railway yard may have become obsolete since WW2, though that's less likely.
Our best bet for this is historic maps, and then a diligent examination of canals; an even better bet would be a historic source of information on railway yards.
Has anyone done an openstreetmap search on railway yards near canals, or are they not tagged?
Note that the railway has tracks going across the street, and then a smaller railway yard on the right. This has led me to believe that this would be near a sizeable industrial area.
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MonkeeSage
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Ah that's a drawbridge! Was trying to figure out what I was seeing there. I thought it was a weirdly shaped barrier or barge that was a bit out into the canal.
I think it is a bascule bridge.
In Open streemap - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:movable
Giddierone
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Perhaps Rotterdam, as the general landscape is similar. I spent 10 minutes convincing myself that this area was so obliterated by bombs leaving no trace of the rail yard or canal...but other things seem to match...a little.
TEEJ
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Possibly the following is of use? The legends have disused/abandoned track.
https://www.openrailwaymap.org/
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenRailwayMap
https://www.openrailwaymap.org/
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenRailwayMap
MonkeeSage
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Not directly related to identifying that image, but while browsing pics of European bridges, I learned something new. There are apparently bridges where one river crosses over another, over a bridge, and boats go across the river-bridge!
Matt33
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It's mostly (or always) a canal crossing a river. I happen to live near one of Germany's two such waterway crossings.
Giddierone
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We live near an aqueduct which we affectionately call the Concrete Submarine.
Mendel
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Your claim is only true if you limit it to navigable rivers.
And you live in or near a city starting with "M".
deirdre
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industriegebied sluisweg is a decent match. (not today of course). but no aerial photos at that raf archive. anyway..looking up industry in netherlands..this is my second plant and im not interested enough to look up more... but maybe an idea to pursue.
The other one i checked against the RAF map was Massbracht but it doesnt match.
the sluisweg is near-south of- massabracht on the lower section of netherlands..if anyoen wants to look more closely.
https://library.wur.nl/WebQuery/geoportal/raf
The other one i checked against the RAF map was Massbracht but it doesnt match.
the sluisweg is near-south of- massabracht on the lower section of netherlands..if anyoen wants to look more closely.
https://library.wur.nl/WebQuery/geoportal/raf
TEEJ
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If the location is Belgium then the UK National Archives have a catalogue of power stations.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4105267
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13530124
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4105267
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13530124
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