# "Geoengineering And The Collapse Of Earth 2014", a Dane Wigington presentation

#### FuzzyUK

##### Active Member

This lecture appears to have taken place on 13 January 2014 and published on YouTube on 5 Feb 2014.

After introducing himself Dane Wigington states:
My question: How does Dane conclude that different materials are being expelled from the aircraft?

#### Balance

##### Senior Member.
Well, you would have to debate it with him, but from those clips he says he can see it. Period.

#### Mick West

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There's a vast amount in that video, pretty much all of which has been addressed elsewhere. The trails he shows in the first minute are an aerodynamic contrail in patchy air, and then a hybrid contrail.

Aerodynamic contrails:
http://contrailscience.com/aerodynamic-and-rainbow-contrails/

Why the trail is broken:
http://contrailscience.com/broken-contrails/

Hybrid contrails:
http://contrailscience.com/hybrid-contrails-a-new-classification/

Since the entire presentation is based on these misidentifications, there's not a lot of point progressing to the arguments he build upon them.

#### Balance

##### Senior Member.
Watching/listening to that video, get to 49mins and Dane's showing a weather map and tells us; this map is of rainfall, most of the country higher than average rainfall but look at this bullseye right above California - no rain.
Sorry, but [...] That's class!

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#### Mick West

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Watching/listening to that video, get to 49mins and Dane's showing a weather map and tells us; this map is of rainfall, most of the country higher than average rainfall but look at this bullseye right above California - no rain.
Sorry, but [...] That's class!

This again goes to Dane misinterpreting the probability maps:

Just like he did with the temperature he's making the same mistake with precipitation (rain/snow):

All the maps shows is the probability that the precipitation will be above or below normal for a five day period. It does not show the actual precipitation, nor does it indicate the decree of precipitation. It's also different from the "Probability of precipitation", which is the probability that it will rain.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/erf_info.php?outlook=610&var=p
These probability maps show great variation across the country, but this is all normal and expected.

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#### Hama Neggs

##### Senior Member.

This lecture appears to have taken place on 13 January 2014 and published on YouTube on 5 Feb 2014.

Isn't that an image of where they used smoke trails to analyze wing vortex? If so, it sure is a stretch to call it "spraying".

#### FuzzyUK

##### Active Member
Is Dane Wigington implying that chemtrail spraying is responsible for the large jet stream oscillation, the Polar Vortex and recent severe bad weather on the East Coast of USA?

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#### Mick West

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Yes he is.

But really we don't want to go through every claim in his video in one thread. Suffice to say it full of inaccuracies, and some are listed above. If anyone wants to debunk any individual claim, then please start a focussed thread.

#### Balance

##### Senior Member.
Is Dane Wigington implying that chemtrail spraying is responsible for the large jet stream oscillation, the Polar Vortex and recent severe bad weather on the East Coast of USA?

What I got from the whole speech, is that Dane is claiming geo-engineering (he doesn't want to use the term chemtrails, instead preferring aerosolisation) which includes spraying and HAARP is being used to control the global weather systems in a bid to combat climate change but is further claiming that the net result is soon-to-be death and destruction of civilisation.

#### Hama Neggs

##### Senior Member.
What I got from the whole speech, is that Dane is claiming geo-engineering (he doesn't want to use the term chemtrails, instead preferring aerosolisation) which includes spraying and HAARP is being used to control the global weather systems in a bid to combat climate change but is further claiming that the net result is soon-to-be death and destruction of civilisation.

The words "deep end" came to mind.

#### Balance

##### Senior Member.
It's pretty much what Max is preaching, except Max seems to be saying the destruction is an evil intentional NWO depopulation agenda, where the government itself is being duped into doing the geoengineering in the mistaken belief it will combat climate change.

#### Steve Funk

##### Senior Member.
Isn't that an image of where they used smoke trails to analyze wing vortex? If so, it sure is a stretch to call it "spraying".
Has anyone done an image search on that image?

Staff member
Here's another:

And from 1973:

#### George B

##### Extinct but not forgotten Staff Member
Is Dane Wigington implying that chemtrail spraying is responsible for the large jet stream oscillation, the Polar Vortex and recent severe bad weather on the East Coast of USA?

Hmmmm, seems like he is stealing concepts from the arctic amplification group.

#### Soulfly

##### Banned
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Can someone explain what he means by collapse?
An economic collapse or the weight of all that aluminum is finally going to collapse the Earth in on itself?

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