Debunked: Sandy Hook: The Man in The Woods

Status
Not open for further replies.

deirdre

Senior Member.
I've been digging but this is the only picture I could find. Maybe your eyes can see something mine cant.

Then again, if he was a real threat, would he not be in the back-seat of the car?


Notice in the video I posted above (be sure to 1080p full screen), the first police officer running pauses, holds then suddenly disappears behind the building. VERY Odd. Almost like a video editing gone bad.

Then the second officer seems to be "gliding".

the 4th officer looks like a K9 unit. suddenly disappears
maybe you should try reading the thread. Granted the early thread stuff is a bit misconstrued but that's basically due to reporters getting info wrong. Most likely everything you're wondering about has been answered already in here somewhere. Including your premise that a news helicopter was on scene so shortly after the shooting, which of course is false.
 

Melbury's Brick

Senior Member.
a
I've been digging but this is the only picture I could find. Maybe your eyes can see something mine cant.

Then again, if he was a real threat, would he not be in the back-seat of the car?


Notice in the video I posted above (be sure to 1080p full screen), the first police officer running pauses, holds then suddenly disappears behind the building. VERY Odd. Almost like a video editing gone bad.

Then the second officer seems to be "gliding".

the 4th officer looks like a K9 unit. suddenly disappears

We don't know when this footage was taken. We don't know who the individual that some think is being apprehended is. There is no evidence that he or she is a police officer, either on or off duty, (or even if an "arrest" is actually taking place).

The "Police reportedly questioning someone. Witness says the man was led out of the woods by police in handcuffs" picture seems to be nothing more than a photograph of a car and the report comes from an unidentified witness.

the first police officer running pauses, holds then suddenly disappears behind the building. VERY Odd. Almost like a video editing gone bad.
I don't really see this. Are you being confused by the jerky zooming in and out of the camera?

Then the second officer seems to be "gliding".

Gliding? I don't see this either. It seems a slightly bizarre claim.

Given this evidence (or lack thereof), what are you implying? What do you actually believe is happening?
 
Last edited:

deirdre

Senior Member.
The "Police reportedly questioning someone. Witness says the man was led out of the woods by police in handcuffs" picture seems to be nothing more than a photograph of a car and the report comes from an unidentified witness.
I've only ever seen ONE "witness". That guy Ron. Problem with that is Ron describes "camo man" who 1. is nowhere near the above car photo and 2. camo came out of the woods not in handcuffs and nowhere near where Ron is in that video of Rons testimony. I don't know what Ron was talking about honestly.
 

Petrina

New Member
I have recently read that parents of two of Roig's students deposed that the gingerbread house making activity was scheduled for 2:00 or 2:30 pm. This time would make sense. The parent participates with the child in the activity and both go home together, taking their creation with them. Manfredonia seems to have been 4.5 hrs early.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
I have recently read that parents of two of Roig's students deposed that the gingerbread house making activity was scheduled for 2:00 or 2:30 pm. This time would make sense. The parent participates with the child in the activity and both go home together, taking their creation with them. Manfredonia seems to have been 4.5 hrs early.
Manfedonia wasn't the man in the woods (so technically this is the wrong thread). That was a misconception by the early press reportings.

There was a morning and afternoon gingerbread activity scheduled.

But please provide links/sources when referring to evidence or statements that people have made.

 

Attachments

  • 00091354.pdf
    1.4 MB · Views: 500
  • 00005519.pdf
    536 KB · Views: 683
  • 00014498.pdf
    640.3 KB · Views: 438
  • 00003341.pdf
    603.7 KB · Views: 524

SayItAintSo

Banned
Banned
Manfedonia wasn't the man in the woods (so technically this is the wrong thread). That was a misconception by the early press reportings.

There was a morning and afternoon gingerbread activity scheduled.

But please provide links/sources when referring to evidence or statements that people have made.



Okay. Going to try and remain on topic here.
I find it very concerning that this site/forum seems more interested in quickly debunking or shunning claims than actually keeping an open mind to alternative views or different perspectives.
While the media may not have found it important that a person, dressed 'darkly', with a weapon, had indeed been contacted and questioned, at least about his identity, by police, in the woods behind the school on that terrible day in Connecticut, I and many others (obviously by the length of this thread) do find it very interesting.

A lot of the information that is used to respond to questions regarding this very interesting "off duty, special tactical officer from another area" is coming from reports on the day of the shooting. If this is an on-going investigation, with as many solid claims or questions surrounding many aspects of the tragedy in Newtown, why has there never been any effort put into answering some of the questions asked, that would have never been asked, had first responders stuck to protocol? No one got the name of the oddly-placed guy that they happened to run into in the woods, behind the school only moments after 27 people were killed?

[off topic removed]
 
Last edited by a moderator:

deirdre

Senior Member.
While the media may not have found it important that a person, dressed 'darkly', with a weapon, had indeed been contacted and questioned, at least about his identity, by police
um, got a source for that. The reporters in the woods, which is what is in that footage, didnt have weapons.
 

SayItAintSo

Banned
Banned
um, got a source for that. The reporters in the woods, which is what is in that footage, didnt have weapons.
The source is in this mile long thread. The people in the woods were not identified as reporters. Had they been this thread wouldn't exist.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
The source is in this mile long thread. The people in the woods were not identified as reporters. Had they been this thread wouldn't exist.
yes they were. But the report didnt come out until nearly a year after this thread was started, so it's best to read it backwards to get more accurate information. I posted it a page or two back.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
The source is in this mile long thread.
no it isnt. the only person having a weapon was a police officer in jeans townspeople were asking who that was in the woods. This thread is primarily about the "video footage" conspiracy theorists claimed was police chasing someone into the woods (they didnt chase anyone into the woods).

From now quote your sources AND (as in the crisis actor thread) at least be mroe clear about what you are referring to.
https://www.metabunk.org/posting-guidelines.t2064/
 

SayItAintSo

Banned
Banned
yes they were. But the report didnt come out until nearly a year after this thread was started, so it's best to read it backwards to get more accurate information. I posted it a page or two back.

Ok. So reporters were in the woods. Immediately after the event. I will go back and ensure that I have seen your post. Still don't see how reporters wouldn't know that reporters were in the woods by the time the chopper was shooting aerial footage just like I don't see how officers wouldn't know that there was an officer in there before they entered and was initially reported the day of.

So the story is no longer an off duty officer was in the woods, those were media?
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
just like I don't see how officers wouldn't know that there was an officer in there before they entered
i dont know what you are talking about. Officers didnt care, never detained or questioned, the police officer town folk saw and asked about later on.

The video footage, police officers ran into the woods and spread out, they questioned two reporters they found in there. The reporters were not 'detained', other than the few minutes it took to verify their identities.

The man who WAS detained and brought to the police station, the one Lowe saw 'come out of the woods' in the squad car, actually came from the parking lot. he was a civilian who parked near the firehouse and just went up to the school to see what was going on. The police had him detained in the parking lot (of the school) for a while, tehn Brookfield police transferred him to a squad car after searching HIS car. He was taken to the police station approx. 12 o'clock and a case number was assigned.
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
I find it very concerning that this site/forum seems more interested in quickly debunking or shunning claims than actually keeping an open mind to alternative views or different perspectives.
Examining the 'alternative views or different perspectives' with an open mind is the definition of what happens here, but there's no point keeping the mind open to things that are obviously false or lack the evidence for an extraordinary claim.
But it really is best if you're going to say things like that you use concrete examples specific to the topic; if you have a problem with the philosophy or execution of this site there are some more general open discussion threads where people have brought up the same complaint.
 

SayItAintSo

Banned
Banned
Ok. So reporters were in the woods. Immediately after the event. I will go back and ensure that I have seen your post. Still don't see how reporters wouldn't know that reporters were in the woods by the time the chopper was shooting aerial footage just like I don't see how officers wouldn't know that there was an officer in there before they entered and was initially reported the day of.

So the story is no longer an off duty officer was in the woods, those were media?

My sources are this very thread in comments made by the moderators in the first four pages of it. I have seen the video footage of the woods. While I saw nothing that would even lead me to think they were doing anything more than 'fanning out' to apprehend any other possible suspects, the article that a moderator here referenced stated that contact had been made with someone in the woods, but he was not detained.

News footage shows another person saying that they put someone in a car that they took from the woods, saying he didn't do it

Doors open/closed who cares. With the amount of weaponry/ammo he had I'm surprised the trunk wasn't popped open too. But people seeing people held in cars or reports of people being contacted in the woods, are details I think would require a little more information on
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
My sources are this very thread in comments made by the moderators in the first four pages of it
then linked them.

The thread starts (before i joined MB) with Mick assuming the OP question - which violates posting guidelines- was asking about a father, Manfredonia. The mainstream media was showing footage of Lowe reporting he saw the police take a man out handcuffed and this man was now sitting in the police cruiser. Mick might have assumed that man was Manfredonia.

At the same time, back then, there was an article in the Newtown Bee that answered a question from townspeople regarding an officer they saw that day in jeans in the woods.

BUT 1. Manfredonia was not he man Lowe saw. (PDF statement attached)
BUT neither of those instances had anything to do with the video footage Mick shows in like post #6 or so on the first page of this thread. That footage was taken much later (well an hour or two later), and was 2 reporters. Noone knew it was 2 reporters until the Official report came out in Dec 2013.
I dont know if during that first year, alternative media called the police and asked who was in that footage. But if they did, my guess is, they were either told it was reporters or were told soemthing like 'i have no idea what footage you are talking about, all that information will be in the official report once it is released'.
 

Attachments

  • 00014498manfredonia.pdf
    617.1 KB · Views: 371

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
Still don't see how reporters wouldn't know that reporters were in the woods by the time the chopper was shooting aerial footage
You have little knowledge of how news reporting works. Reporters are not some kind of organised army, they are an unorganised rabble. They bigger the story, the bigger and more unorganised the rabble.

Every TV station, radio station, newspaper and freelancer is out looking for a scoop, the shots or angle that will out do the others and attract viewers, readers and listeners to their station or publication. When they are chasing a really big and breaking story, you will barely know who else is around, and no idea where anyone else is (outside any official press line). All you care about is where your team is and getting your reports in... the rest of the press corps could be putting on a nudist production of The Sound Of Music in a local brewery for all you know or care, its not your business, the breaking story is.
 

RaceBanyon

New Member
I find it very concerning that this site/forum seems more interested in quickly debunking or shunning claims than actually keeping an open mind to alternative views or different perspectives.

Uh, what are you proposing as an alternative? That we not look into fantastical claims in order to maintain a falsely "open mind"?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Thread starter Related Articles Forum Replies Date
deirdre Debunked: Newtown Bee removing article links related to Sandy Hook citizen investigations Sandy Hook 3
J Debunked: Sandy Hook Dad Dave Wheeler CAUGHT in SWAT uniform on day of shooting Sandy Hook 102
deirdre Debunked: Medical Examiner 'caught' setting up fake crime scene Sandy Hook 4
deirdre Debunked: Kaitlin Roig could not fit her 15 students in bathroom Sandy Hook 27
deirdre Debunked: Police took photos before attending to wounded Sandy Hook 1
deirdre Debunked: Hochsprung Email Suggests Sandy Hook Vacated Months Before Massacre Event Sandy Hook 11
MikeG Debunked: Crime Scene Photos "Prove" Sandy Hook was a Hoax Sandy Hook 107
Mike Fl Debunked: Sandy Hook FEMA Drill PDF Sandy Hook 8
Mike Fl Debunked: The Claim That the Envelope Was Found in the Lanza Home Sandy Hook 10
Mick West Debunked: FBI Says No one killed at Sandy Hook [Included in CT State total] Sandy Hook 48
deirdre Debunked: The band on Lanza's hat wasnt used by Flexfit until 2013 Sandy Hook 27
deirdre Debunked: United Way (Sandy Hook Donations) refuses FOIA requests Sandy Hook 2
J Debunked: Full proof sandy hook was closed 5 yrs ago Sandy Hook 25
deirdre Debunked: Sandy Hook Residents got their houses for free Sandy Hook 10
Mick West Debunked: Sandy Hook Victims not in Social Security Death Index (SSDI Official Death Records) Sandy Hook 9
Keith Johnson Debunked: "Drill" Protocols Followed at Sandy Hook Sandy Hook 3
Mick West Debunked: Why were Life Star helicopters not deployed to Sandy Hook School? Sandy Hook 208
Mick West Debunked: Sandy Hook: Nick and Laura Phelps actors, Jennifer Greenberg Sandy Hook 18
hopstoopid Debunked: Sandy Hook. Media staging photos. Sandy Hook 167
Mick West Debunked: Sandy Hook: Anderson Cooper Green Screen Disappearing Nose with Pozner Sandy Hook 20
Mick West Debunked: Sandy Hook: Nuns wearing comfortable shoes Sandy Hook 9
jvnk08 Debunked: Sandy Hook: "End the life of Adam" Sandy Hook 13
Mick West Debunked: Jesse Lewis in Obama Photo after Sandy Hook Sandy Hook 35
Mick West Debunked: Sandy Hook: The Guns, Assault Rifle, Gun in the Trunk, Handguns Sandy Hook 15
A Debunked: Sandy Hook: Not Enough Tears Sandy Hook 215
Met Watch Debunked: Vimeo Video Proves Sandy Hook Was Preplanned Sandy Hook 16
J Debunked: Emilie Parker Still Alive after Sandy Hook Sandy Hook 278
Mick West Debunked: Sandy Hook Hoax (OP includes quick links ) Sandy Hook 308
scombrid Debunked: HAARP Builds Noreaster in wake of Sandy HAARP 4
Mick West Debunked: Hurricane Sandy, Chemtrails, HAARP and Conspiracy Theories Conspiracy Theories 138
Mick West Debunked: Crowder's "Fraud Week" Title Graphic (and Why it Matters) Election 2020 1
JFDee Debunked: Democratic senators complained about 'vote switching' by Dominion voting machines in 2019 Election 2020 2
Mendel Debunked: The Democrats are trying to take away freedom of religion Election 2020 6
H Debunked: Dr. Shiva's Scatterplot Analysis of Michigan Precincts Election 2020 35
Mick West Debunked: Suspicious "Biden Only" Ballots in Georgia Election 2020 3
Mick West Debunked: "Nancy Pelosi's long time Chief of Staff is a key executive at Dominion Voting" Election 2020 0
Mick West Debunked: Wisconsin Turnout 89% Impossible High [Actually 72%] Election 2020 1
Mick West Debunked: Video of Poll Worker "Filling In" Ballots. Election 2020 3
Mick West Debunked: Pentagon has Evidence of "Off-World Vehicles Not Made on this Earth" UFO Videos and Reports from the US Navy 14
derrick06 Debunked: United Nations creates a "NWO" website Conspiracy Theories 2
N Debunked: Google Mail icon shows linkage to Freemasons Conspiracy Theories 4
Mendel Debunked: The WHO did not take the Taiwan CDC seriously Coronavirus COVID-19 0
A Why 9/11 Truthers Are Wrong About The Facts | (Part 1 w/ Mick West) 9/11 1
Mendel Debunked: Radar Waves Affect Clouds General Discussion 0
Pumpernickel Need Debunking: Foucault's Pendulum debunked through Mach's principle (the Earth is a static object in the center of the Universe) Science and Pseudoscience 16
M Ufos arrive to the central zone of Chile. (Debunked). Skydentify - What is that Thing in the Sky? 0
Jesse3959 FE Debunked with water tube level - 187 foot building 21.2 miles away below eye level Flat Earth 0
H Debunked: Cadillac Mountain from 220 miles Flat Earth 7
Jesse3959 FE Claim Debunked: JTolan Epic Gravity Experiment - Flat earther disproves Perspective! (or his instruments.) Flat Earth 0
Mick West Debunked: DoD prepares for martial law in CONUS: Conspiracy Theories 0
Related Articles


















































Related Articles

Top