hey mick, i have a few problems with your posts itt, and i will try and explain why, i think, you haven't debunked anything.
Chris Manfredonia, the father of a girl at the school was on his way there where he heard gunfire, so he ran towards the school.
first of all you are quoting ONE newspaper article 2x. notice at the bottom of the chicago article it clearly says, "latimes". unintentional?
2ndly you have a hard time with the rush for media to get out a story(any story) and go with it. "It's also expected, and this is something that needs repeating, that initial media reports of such a situation are going to be fragmentary, constantly changing, and often wrong. It's chaos, there's a lot of people doing a lot of different things, and yet the media is there 24 hours, sucking up any tiny fragment of information and repeating it without verifying it, or even really understanding the context. "
but you are "debunking" this whole CM story with ONE article you've quoted 2x and was published ON 12/14.
it also says "he smelled sulfur" I am not a "gun guy" I haven't been around when these things get shot. He hears "popping" noises,then ran towards the school, but is so close he can smell sulfur. Wouldn't he be pretty close to the shooter if he can smell sulfur, so why wouldn't he be able to know that these are LOUD gunshots?and why would he have to then run to the school. can you smell sulfur from the parking lot? like i said, i don't know and would like to ask. He wouldve had to come in through the front door, since all doors are locked and this is how everyone get in after 930. This guys story seems VERY important. So he gets to the school, sometime after the shooting starts,didn't see anyone dressed in camo and black with guns go up to the school, but before cops get there. So we have to assume he drives? there, gets out of the car and starts walking to the front of the school. as he's walking he hears popping and smells sulfur, starts running towards the school. then he is caught 'running around the school" what is your interperatation of that ? he was inside the school running around?. or he went to another door besides the front door? why would he not go to the front door first? if he did, get in, and was running around the school , didnt he see lanza? This is an awfully small amount of detail, to disprove all of these questions it seems like nobody else thinks about but me? come on?
The first responders there(chief of police) say they went to the back of the building and broke a window to get in. this again, is confusing me. Could CM have seen them, followed them, and then get caught by the 2nd responders? I don't know?
"The detained man in camo pants and a dark jacket was Chris Manfredonia, a parent who was on his way to the school and ran around it when he heard gunshots.....But there's basically no details about him"
Mick how do you know that? Is this YOUR theory? Where did you read this? you read a 2 paragraph report and decided that HE was the guy in the camo pants. What about roy low? he said in the interview he saw them take a guy out of the woods and put him in the cop car where he is still sitting, he has camo pants. Your article says he was 'briefly' held by police. So why would he still be in the car when roy low is interviewed( i haven't found out the actual time of his interview , but i am searching)? was roy low there that early to see him. I believe CM was detained at 944? again something i am looking for.
"The second reported man turned out to be a cop out of uniform. What exactly is unlikely about that? "
well absolutely nothing i guess. So in one of the biggest tragedy's ever, to see an off duty tactical squad police officer in the woods with a gun, is unimportant. NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG KID! Soooo... who was he? Why was he there exactly. ? why was he hiding in the woods? Isn't this the same newspaper who interviewed the principal? Now we are going to not question the story or the " a reliable local law enforcement source"
The local law enforcement(who cannot find 2 ladies in the school 4 hours later) anonymously tells the newton bee(see above) an anonymous ODTSPO was found in the woods and we shouldn't think anything of it. ?
In your eyes that is good enough ? do you not want to actually put some thought into this. or you believe what you are told.You quote 2(! see above) sources when they are convenient(although not entirely reliable, you said so,) and then as far as i can tell completely made up "the fact" that CM was in the camo pants. link me prove me wrong. debunk me!
"And the eyewitnesses who saw him shoot the children. "
can you link me to the eyewitness who can eyeball adam lanza shooting? I can't find one.
"Of course people WILL find it suspicious, but there's nothing that can be done if people actually WANT things to be suspicious. "
this street goes both ways, if you don't look you won't find anything to be suspicious about. if you blindly believe anonymous sources , or just make up your own theories, why should you actually THINK about it.
IMO you haven't looked into this story very closely , but still are making definitive comments about it, and debunking this thread with your own theories.
I haven't really looked into some of the other dubunked threads , is this honestly the best you can do?
Also IMO opinion, according to yourl ' metabunk about' section. you are not really looking for the truth. you are looking to debunk "conspiracy theorists" It seems like you go into each independent situation with a preconceived notion that the CT are wrong and the "official story" is right. IN your defense I haven't spent a lot of time looking at the rest of the forums, yet, but that is the course you seem to be taking with this story. I would encourage you to put some THOUGHT into this subject , if you continue to comment about sandy hook.
what does it mean to you , if gene rosen is lying? or if the cops didn't check the closet.? I did have more questions, but I doubt you would actually answer them, since you've been so quiet in the other thread.
As I've said, in my first post, i would love to find some serious discussion about these questions i have, but it looks more and more like it isn't going to be on this website.
