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It's like if a weatherman repeatedly predicted a severe storm every single day and was wrong everyday, expect for the one day that it did happen and then using that as a replacement for his lack of skills and training as a meteorologist.
 
He just predicts some kind of false flag, and mentions bin Laden. I missed where he said airplanes.

It's the standard conspiracy prediction "Something will happen", then later (if something happened) "that was it", or (if nothing happens), "something will happen soon".
He mentions airliners around the 1:55 - 2:17 section
 
This was pretty accurate.. Alex Jones in 2004: "We're gonna put in a Democrat later who works for the exact same people, and all you Democrats who hate the Patriot Act and all you Democrats who hate the Police State, you're suddenly going to love it!"

2:45 - 3:11

 
That might be half accurate, but that's just politics and gullible people in a nutshell. Anyone who pays attention could have seen that. Not all democrats love the patriot act and many have been critical of Obama including myself. It's really not much different than conservatives only complaining about the defecit, invasion of privacy, and health insurance mandates when it was ok just 10 years ago.

You've heard the old adage "a broken clock is right twice a day". It's virtually impossible to be 100% wrong 100% of the time so even the craziest of crazies are going to be correct once in a while. How does this absolve him from the lies and failed predictions he's made in the last 20 years?
 
Another Alex from MSNBC takes notice of Alex Jones influence on the Boston Bombers. People are waking up to the dangerous side of this lunatic who daily preachers to a growing radical fringe. His influence is all too often followed by a great tragedy perpetrated by one of his fans.
 
Other predictions by Jones that have failed to happen:

Gun Ban - Jones says the Federal Government will try to bans and confiscation just as was done in the UK and Australia. Yes the Feds are threating gun ban bills and even the President and Vice Pres are dropping quotes about "Executive Actions" but thats just all show for the TV right?

RFID Tracking/Big Brother - Jones has been saying for years that the Federal Government wants to track everythig you do. We all know thats a joke right? After all stories like the one about the student in the Northside Independent School Distric being kicked out of school for resuing to wear an RFID emmbeded ID card that included her Social Security Number is just all made up; never happened.

Higher Taxes/Out Of Control Debt - For a long time Jones and others have been warning about the out of control National debt and the Feds unwillingness to do anything about it. We all know this is just a bunch of smoke right? Sure we;ve pushed the National Credit Card hard but thats because we're good for it right? We are after all in charge (Globally speaking) because we posses the reserver currency and therefore can create as much money out of nothing as we like and the rest of the world WILL put up with it because we will invade their country if they don't like it.

Yep, that crazy old Conspiracy Theorists has been way wrong on everything.

I'm curious if the Metabunk.org crowd is still singing the "Therses Nothing Going On" tune or have recent events finally opened some eyes to whats happeneing and will happen if the current course we are on does not change? Even if you don't believe rich/powerful elitists are pulling the strings you can't seriously deny the effort to push America into a police state nor the fact that the Federal Government is butchering our rights.

Ey?

I'd have to say they're still singing the same thing.
 
That might be half accurate, but that's just politics and gullible people in a nutshell. Anyone who pays attention could have seen that. Not all democrats love the patriot act and many have been critical of Obama including myself. It's really not much different than conservatives only complaining about the defecit, invasion of privacy, and health insurance mandates when it was ok just 10 years ago.

You've heard the old adage "a broken clock is right twice a day". It's virtually impossible to be 100% wrong 100% of the time so even the craziest of crazies are going to be correct once in a while. How does this absolve him from the lies and failed predictions he's made in the last 20 years?

I think the govt lies more than AJ, especially King Obama. Sometimes you got to look at the good things instead of just the bad things.
 
Can you give us a dozen of his predictions that were accurate and not something that a $10 crystal ball reader wouldn't see?



However, as pointed out above, Alex Jones predicts these things with such regularity. And yet, in his grand 50 Predictions For 2013, such an attack is notable for its absence. However, as 2013 is not over with yet, it is fairer to assess older predictions, such as this list for 2010-2012. And of that list, well, let us see for ourselves:

Worldwide shortage of rare earth metals – Didn’t happen
Food supply disruptions hit western nations – Didn’t happen
Deadly superbug mutation goes wild – Didn’t happen
New evidence links vaccines and neurological disorders – The opposite happened
U.S. power grid suffers catastrophic failure – Didn’t happen
Satellite breakdown – Didn’t happen
GM crop contamination leads to crisis – Didn’t happen
Honeybee population collapse spreads to other species – Didn’t happen
Weather patterns become increasingly radicalized – Debatable
Nuclear power sees global resurgence – The Fukushima incident discredited this
Nuclear weapons unleashed in the Middle East – Didn’t happen
New exotic superfood from South America emerges in western markets – Didn’t happen
A high-tech, portable vitamin D sensor device is invented – Didn’t happen
U.S. debt gets downgraded while world investors slash purchases of U.S. debt instruments – The debt was downgraded, but investors still flock to it
U.S. nearly comes to military conflict with China over natural resources – Didn’t happen
Huge new scandal implicates major pharmaceutical company in scientific fraud – Nothing out of the ordinary here
China unleashes armies of corporate espionage hackers onto western nations – Some debate on this is ongoing
Medical imaging scandal unfolds as older patients begin to show serious health damage from radiation via mammograms, CT scans and more – Didn’t happen
Another 9/11 false flag incident – Didn’t happen
The world won’t end on December 21, 2012 – Hey, a stopped clock is right twice a day!
EPA pressured to regulate pharmaceuticals in the water supply – Can’t even contemplate this one without the brain hurting
Nursing home drugging scandal exposed – Didn’t happen
The psychiatric industry will declare more normal behaviors to be “disorders” – Didn’t happen
Vaccine industry goes crazy with new vaccines for all sorts of “diseases” – Didn’t happen
War on health freedom ramps up, targeting raw milk, homeopathy, herbs and supplements – Didn’t happen
The world becomes a far more dangerous place for honest citizens – So open-ended you cannot even evaluate
New attempts are made to destroy internet freedom – SOPA and PIPA have been discussed for awhile, so not a real argument
China’s boom will bust, sending ripples through global economy – Didn’t happen
Central and South America will drop the U.S. dollar as a currency – Didn’t happen
Local currencies emerge following the collapse of the dollar – As the dollar didn’t collapse, this didn’t happen
TSA suspends full body scanners after celeb photo scandal – No, was suspended due to dangerous exposure to radiation
Cell phone brain tumors start to appear in younger users – Didn’t happen
Medical industry claims to find cause of autism – Didn’t happen, although some hope has been raised
Terrorist strike on the U.S. water supply – Didn’t happen
Sperm count drops, infertility rates rise – Fertility is increasing, not decreasing, across the United States
“Stealth personal recorders” go mainstream – We call them Cell Phones, although Alex Jones is quick to claim that they cause cancer

Of course Alex Jones will take all of this criticism in stride, and blame someone else. But the reality is, Alex Jones’ predictive capability is as accurate as Stevie Wonder at the shooting range. He is a fraud, and the sooner his audience realizes this, the better.
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Can you give us a dozen of his predictions that were accurate and not something that a $10 crystal ball reader wouldn't see?



However, as pointed out above, Alex Jones predicts these things with such regularity. And yet, in his grand 50 Predictions For 2013, such an attack is notable for its absence. However, as 2013 is not over with yet, it is fairer to assess older predictions, such as this list for 2010-2012. And of that list, well, let us see for ourselves:

Some things could happen even if not in those exact years.

Worldwide shortage of rare earth metals – Didn’t happen (Shortage of rare earth minerals may cripple US high tech, scientists warn Congress)

Food supply disruptions hit western nations – Didn’t happen (Norway 500.00 that is dollars A PACK for butter. With all the droughts we've been having, ranchers have had to sell the cattle sooner. Packaging has gotten smaller. A friend of mine parents..farmers lost their crops 2 years in a row but thats nearby where I live.)

Deadly superbug mutation goes wild – Didn’t happen (It comes and goes.)

New evidence links vaccines and neurological disorders – The opposite happened (Autistic rates have gone way up; 1 in 88 now. In the 70's it was like 1 in 10,000. Up to 1989 kids received 10 shots, now its 36. Phsycoactive (spelling) drugs: Let try Columbine, Holt, and Lanza. Finnish scientists published new research on 2011 that confirmed the link.)

U.S. power grid suffers catastrophic failure – Didn’t happen (Still could, type in electrical grid vulnerable. If it does, most will die. Best way to bring the US to its knees; EMP device.)

Satellite breakdown – Didn’t happen (Solar flares, Chinas satellite destroying weapon.????)

GM crop contamination leads to crisis – Didn’t happen 1820 sheep dead eating BT cotton in India GMO contaminates other crops all the time, organic..Long term affects not studied. Infertility in mice.)

Honeybee population collapse spreads to other species – Didn’t happen ( Bee viruses spread via flower pollen...National Geographic) ( Now bats.)

Weather patterns become increasingly radicalized – Debatable (Weather radicalizing worsening, global food supply cause food production...plummet. A foot of hail in New Mexico last month & theres a bunch more.) 2011 was called "THE MOST EXTREME weather year for USA.)

Nuclear power sees global resurgence – The Fukushima incident discredited this. (I don't know yet, either its (Nuclear Power in 2013: Another year of RESURGENCE. and/or In 2010 King Obama's administration launched new initiative to build nuclear power plants) (I've been hearing that for years about whatever, NO big deal.)

Nuclear weapons unleashed in the Middle East – Didn’t happen (It still could.)

New exotic superfood from South America emerges in western markets – Didn’t happen

A high-tech, portable vitamin D sensor device is invented – Didn’t happen
U.S. debt gets downgraded while world investors slash purchases of U.S. debt instruments – The debt was downgraded, but investors still flock to it
U.S. nearly comes to military conflict with China over natural resources – Didn’t happen
Huge new scandal implicates major pharmaceutical company in scientific fraud – Nothing out of the ordinary here
China unleashes armies of corporate espionage hackers onto western nations – Some debate on this is ongoing
Medical imaging scandal unfolds as older patients begin to show serious health damage from radiation via mammograms, CT scans and more – Didn’t happen
Another 9/11 false flag incident – Didn’t happen
The world won’t end on December 21, 2012 – Hey, a stopped clock is right twice a day!
EPA pressured to regulate pharmaceuticals in the water supply – Can’t even contemplate this one without the brain hurting
Nursing home drugging scandal exposed – Didn’t happen
The psychiatric industry will declare more normal behaviors to be “disorders” – Didn’t happen
Vaccine industry goes crazy with new vaccines for all sorts of “diseases” – Didn’t happen

War on health freedom ramps up, targeting raw milk, homeopathy, herbs and supplements – Didn’t happen
(The guy who wrote this is retarded. He must of missed out on the raids of Amish farmers, organic farms in other places.)


The world becomes a far more dangerous place for honest citizens – So open-ended you cannot even evaluate
New attempts are made to destroy internet freedom – SOPA and PIPA have been discussed for awhile, so not a real argument
China’s boom will bust, sending ripples through global economy – Didn’t happen
Central and South America will drop the U.S. dollar as a currency – Didn’t happen
Local currencies emerge following the collapse of the dollar – As the dollar didn’t collapse, this didn’t happen

TSA suspends full body scanners after celeb photo scandal – No, was suspended due to dangerous exposure to radiation---(But they said it was safe)

Cell phone brain tumors start to appear in younger users – Didn’t happen
Medical industry claims to find cause of autism – Didn’t happen, although some hope has been raised
Terrorist strike on the U.S. water supply – Didn’t happen
Sperm count drops, infertility rates rise – Fertility is increasing, not decreasing, across the United States
“Stealth personal recorders” go mainstream – We call them Cell Phones, although Alex Jones is quick to claim that they cause cancer

Of course Alex Jones will take all of this criticism in stride, and blame someone else. But the reality is, Alex Jones’ predictive capability is as accurate as Stevie Wonder at the shooting range. He is a fraud, and the sooner his audience realizes this, the better.
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...and I haven't even finished this list yet. Maybe you need to listen to AJ & to doublecheck, I don't think he didn't make these predictions. I have to wait until later to do that.



Lets try police state, that just keeps going and going and going. Hitler would be proud.
 
It's not just AJ's predictions people. Take a look at his content. Trust me, I was watching and listening to this guy 24/7 for years, too many years. My youtube account is still stuffed with I think 3 years worth of his videos and radio shows. I learned a few things about AJ during those years:

AJ is the conspiracy king, so if he didn't break the story, he either ignores it, or tries to smear it. He actually gets upset when people have to remind him he didn't start the 911 truther movement.
AJ is a pompous blowhard who acts like a 12 year old kid who lost his meds and his mommy took his ipad away. Every single interview he's done on mainstream media is an example of this.
AJ promotes conspiracies that tie directly into his ad based sponsors.

chemtrails are killing you, buy this air purifier
Fluoride is killing you, buy this reverse osmosis filter system
The financial system is crumbling, buy these gold coins
Your food is being poisoned to kill you all, buy this colloidal silver
Government shock troops are going to kick in your door and send you to a FEMA concentration camp, buy this self defense training course and get a free handgun.

what is Alex Jones? A patriot? A freedom fighter? A conspiracy theorist?

No, he's a gatekeeper who gives you have truths smothered in BS and wrapped in ad based revenue. He is the man sent out into the world, to make anyone and everyone who has questions, about anything, look like a drooling raving idiot. He's a poster child for mental illness, how many times has he claimed "they are out to get me"? too many, that's how many. He's a poster child for gun control.

They guy literally incites his viewers to stockpile food and ammunition for the coming civil war against the government. He's a danger to himself and everyone around him. the only "predictions" he made that were accurate were made by others, like Bill Cooper. AJ is a honeypot.

But let me put that into language AJ listeners can understand:

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Can you give us a dozen of his predictions that were accurate and not something that a $10 crystal ball reader wouldn't see?



However, as pointed out above, Alex Jones predicts these things with such regularity. And yet, in his grand 50 Predictions For 2013, such an attack is notable for its absence. However, as 2013 is not over with yet, it is fairer to assess older predictions, such as this list for 2010-2012. And of that list, well, let us see for ourselves:

Worldwide shortage of rare earth metals – Didn’t happen
Food supply disruptions hit western nations – Didn’t happen
Deadly superbug mutation goes wild – Didn’t happen
New evidence links vaccines and neurological disorders – The opposite happened
U.S. power grid suffers catastrophic failure – Didn’t happen
Satellite breakdown – Didn’t happen
GM crop contamination leads to crisis – Didn’t happen
Honeybee population collapse spreads to other species – Didn’t happen
Weather patterns become increasingly radicalized – Debatable
Nuclear power sees global resurgence – The Fukushima incident discredited this
Nuclear weapons unleashed in the Middle East – Didn’t happen
New exotic superfood from South America emerges in western markets – Didn’t happen

A high-tech, portable vitamin D sensor device is invented – Didn’t happen (SKINHEALTH TECHNOLOGY INTRODUCES SOLAR SENSOR FOR MEASURING VITAMIN D ABSORPTION)

U.S. debt gets downgraded while world investors slash purchases of U.S. debt instruments – The debt was downgraded, but investors still flock to it ( S & P ANNOUNCED THAT IT DOWNGRADED THE US DEBT FROM AAA TO AA+ TONIGHT........DEBT INSTRUMENTS...)

U.S. nearly comes to military conflict with China over natural resources – Didn’t happen ( KING OBAMA SENT US WARSHIPS TO ACCOMPANY US SURVEILLANCE SHIPS BECAUSE OF TENSIONS IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA. ) (I THINK TAIWAN, VIETNAM HAVE BEEN BUTTING HEADS WITH CHINA. WE HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING OVER THERE.)

Huge new scandal implicates major pharmaceutical company in scientific fraud – Nothing out of the ordinary here ( KETEK DRUG SCANDAL REVEALS PATTERN OF SCIENTIFIC FRAUD +++ MORE)

China unleashes armies of corporate espionage hackers onto western nations – Some debate on this is ongoing ( THERE WAS A CHINA HACKING OR THEY WERE ACCUSED OF IT)

Medical imaging scandal unfolds as older patients begin to show serious health damage from radiation via mammograms, CT scans and more – Didn’t happen (THERE WAS A TWO DAY MEETING IN WHICH THE FDA PLANS TO REDUCE...CT SCANS IN 2007 RELATED TO 29,000 FUTURE CANCERS.)

Another 9/11 false flag incident – Didn’t happen (THERE WILL BE and I PROBABLY KNOW WHAT IT MIGHT BE.)

The world won’t end on December 21, 2012 – Hey, a stopped clock is right twice a day! ( THE END OF THE MAYAN CALENDER. DID HE REALLY SAY THIS?)

EPA pressured to regulate pharmaceuticals in the water supply – Can’t even contemplate this one without the brain hurting (TRUE)

Nursing home drugging scandal exposed – Didn’t happen (TRUE) LA TIMES STATES THIS)

The psychiatric industry will declare more normal behaviors to be “disorders” – Didn’t happen
Vaccine industry goes crazy with new vaccines for all sorts of “diseases” – Didn’t happen

(THERES TOO MANY THINGS THAT ARE TRUE THAT I"M NOT EVEN GOING TO MESS WITH THE 2 SENTENCES ABOVE.

War on health freedom ramps up, targeting raw milk, homeopathy, herbs and supplements – Didn’t happen

The world becomes a far more dangerous place for honest citizens – So open-ended you cannot even evaluate
New attempts are made to destroy internet freedom – SOPA and PIPA have been discussed for awhile, so not a real argument
China’s boom will bust, sending ripples through global economy – Didn’t happen

Central and South America will drop the U.S. dollar as a currency – Didn’t happen (THE OIL RICH STATES HAD A MEETING ABOUT IT, SEEMS THE WORLD IS TIRED OF THE US JUST PRINTING MORE PESOS IN COVERING ITS ARSE AND THEY CAN'T DO THAT.)

Local currencies emerge following the collapse of the dollar – As the dollar didn’t collapse, this didn’t happen (THEY ALREADY HAVE.)

TSA suspends full body scanners after celeb photo scandal – No, was suspended due to dangerous exposure to radiation ( I DIDN'T KNOW THEY DID AWAY WITH THEM. JUST LIKE THE AIR WAS SAFE ON 911 and WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE?)


Cell phone brain tumors start to appear in younger users – Didn’t happen (THERE IS SOME CONCERN FROM THE CANCER SOCIETY ABOUT GETTING HEATED IN THE HEAD.)

Medical industry claims to find cause of autism – Didn’t happen, although some hope has been raised ( IT'S THOSE VACCINES)

Terrorist strike on the U.S. water supply – Didn’t happen IT STILL CAN.)

Sperm count drops, infertility rates rise – Fertility is increasing, not decreasing, across the United States (IT IS PREDICTED TO DO SO....FERTILITY DRUGS...)


“Stealth personal recorders” go mainstream – We call them Cell Phones, although Alex Jones is quick to claim that they cause cancer

Of course Alex Jones will take all of this criticism in stride, and blame someone else. But the reality is, Alex Jones’ predictive capability is as accurate as Stevie Wonder at the shooting range. He is a fraud, and the sooner his audience realizes this, the better.
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Well Stevie must of gotten his sight back. About 80% what was listed was true. About the same % o people who think 911 was a lie...You people who believe the official story that are in the minority anyway, according to polls, will believe anything as long as it puts down truthers because...it has something to do with common sense, arrogance, the Nile..whatever. Nanthanial Downs must have Down's Syndrome along with being a fraud himself. The sooner people come to realize that AJ is not a fraud the sooner they will be enlightened.

What I think our next False Flag event will be? A nuke. Why? Because Bill signed PDD-60 which states for our military forces not to rely on Launch on Warning to be ABLE TO ABSORB A NUCLEAR STRIKE and still have enough of a force to survive to constitute a credible deterrence. Then theres 3 exceptions...

So start building your bomb shelters if you find out in time. I'm guessing Chicago or Texas cause Texas gives DC a little hell sometimes but not enough. Bush Jr will probably be at his little 20,000 acre ranch in Paraguay when it happens.
 
Muttkat, don't you see you are just making excuses for failed predictions? It's easy to spin anything after the fact and claim it as a win. But a shortage of butter in Norway is not the same as "Food supply disruptions hit western nations". Characterizing the list as 80% true is extremely inaccurate, even with your more open-minded interpretation.
 
Muttkat, it must be stressful living in a delusion where everyone is out to kill you. I suggest you take a break from Alex Jones and gain a little perspective on life. He's worked you up into a frenzy. i mean, if you honestly believe your government is going to nuke you, well I really don't know what to say to that. Just don't do anything drastic ok?

AJ is a fraud, he lost any and all credibility with the whole "Brown's" incident. What? You don't remember AJ totally selling those people out to the government and MSM? You don't remember him selling his secret interview with them, after he agreed not to? Of course you don't, that's how Alex Jones fans work, I call it the memory hole, and with AJ's head being as big as it is, I'm sure plenty of stuff ends up in that hole.

If AJ wasn't a fraud, we would have all died new years even 1999/2000. At least he doesn't talk about Nibiru. Then again, he talks about reptilian shape shifting aliens with David Icke all the time..... take that as you may.

And, for the record, i don't believe the official 911 story, I have a pretty keen understanding of physics and probability.
 
Muttkat, it must be stressful living in a delusion where everyone is out to kill you. I suggest you take a break from Alex Jones and gain a little perspective on life. He's worked you up into a frenzy. i mean, if you honestly believe your government is going to nuke you, well I really don't know what to say to that. Just don't do anything drastic ok?

AJ is a fraud, he lost any and all credibility with the whole "Brown's" incident. What? You don't remember AJ totally selling those people out to the government and MSM? You don't remember him selling his secret interview with them, after he agreed not to? Of course you don't, that's how Alex Jones fans work, I call it the memory hole, and with AJ's head being as big as it is, I'm sure plenty of stuff ends up in that hole.

If AJ wasn't a fraud, we would have all died new years even 1999/2000. At least he doesn't talk about Nibiru. Then again, he talks about reptilian shape shifting aliens with David Icke all the time..... take that as you may.

And, for the record, i don't believe the official 911 story, I have a pretty keen understanding of physics and probability.

Yes, he's been acting like a pompous spoil brat with a big ego. I"m not stressed because I think everybody is out to kill me. Well actually that was a problem before. I threw him out. Its not like I wake up every morning and get into an Alex frenzy. I've only watched his videos twice in 3 months but I use his articles for reference and I do comparisons with other sites. He worked me into a frenzy? Not even.

The nuke thing. If you go to the rambles section, you will find my nuclear theory along with pictures, responders statements and if you don't agree thats fine as long as you don't believe the official story like 99% of the people here. There were some answers but most of the time I got silence or some stupid answer most of the time. If you have a keen sense...check it out and see where I'm coming from but be nice because I have a nuke bomb in my hand and I willl blow myself up if you're not nice. lol

I don't know about the Brown incident, sorry I missed that one. If I haven't heard about then its not a memory hole but I will look it up.

They're not reptilians, they are snakes. Theres alot of them snakes in DC.
 
I don't know about the Brown incident, sorry I missed that one. If I haven't heard about then its not a memory hole but I will look it up.

I believe the family was the Browns. It was a stand off between them and government, I can't recall the specifics, but the media spun it as if they were in a "compound". All of the links are blocked on my work network, but a google search for "alex jones sells out family" brings up 2 articles at the top which appear to be what I'm talking about. Here's one I can follow:

http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html

So yeah, it was the Gray family, I was close lol

They're not reptilians, they are snakes. Theres alot of them snakes in DC.

That we agree on 100%, but there's a ton in Ottawa as well ;) I'll check out your nuke thread when I've got more time, I'll be nice you can count on that.
 
I believe the family was the Browns. It was a stand off between them and government, I can't recall the specifics, but the media spun it as if they were in a "compound". All of the links are blocked on my work network, but a google search for "alex jones sells out family" brings up 2 articles at the top which appear to be what I'm talking about. Here's one I can follow:

http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html

So yeah, it was the Gray family, I was close lol



That we agree on 100%, but there's a ton in Ottawa as well ;) I'll check out your nuke thread when I've got more time, I'll be nice you can count on that.
Those darn 2 leggeded snakes. lol and I'll check out the Brown's.
 
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Oh gee, I forgot to mention something else on your Alex bashing list. These lines that Alex said above.....It wasn't even him that stated this above, it was somebody else. Seems ole dummy who put this video together used AJ on the video but used somebody else's list. Either Nanthanial is stupid or did it deliberately.
 
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Oh gee, I forgot to mention something else on your Alex bashing list. These lines that Alex said above.....It wasn't even him that stated this above, it was somebody else. Seems ole dummy who put this video together used AJ on the video but used somebody else's list. Either Nanthanial is stupid or did it deliberately.

They used a list published on Infowars, originally from Natural News
http://www.prisonplanet.com/thirty-six-predictions-for-the-world-2010-2012.html

Did Alex disagree with any of those predictions?
 
The predictions seem to have originated with Mike Adams and were then circulated and promoted by Jones.

I understand that he 'owns' InfoWars and a lot of predictions show up there. He has to approve of them, or they wouldn't be there.


This seems to be a better list of Jones own nonsense.


http://www.ramblingbeachcat.com/2013/04/alex-jones-brilliant-at-pretending-to.html


On the eve of the year 2000, Alex Jones did a special broadcast that included claims of missiles being launched at the United States by Russia, nuclear power plants failing all over the world, ATM machines not giving people money, short wave radios going down, and that more military conflicts were happening right at that moment all over the world than had occurred in 50 years. Here are some of the highlights:




During this time, Alex Jones apparently forgot that the internet existed and that someone would record what he was saying on the eve of the year 2000. When questioned about his claims in 2010, Jones explained that he was just "joking around" and had simply been taken out of context.
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Another list of predictions

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June 15, 2008: US Dollar will be devalued 90% over the next two years.

-February, 2008: Hillary Clinton has been chosen by the "elites" to be president.

-February 1, 2009: Obama to stage an attack in 2-4 months.

-February 4, 2009: Inaugural bombings to be staged by US government in 6-7 months.

-February 26, 2009: Staged terror attack to occur before the end of 2009.

-May 17, 2009: 16-year-olds in training to be part of youth corps to help implement martial law in 2-3 years

-June 22, 2009: Obama to stage terror attack in 60-90 days.

-August 24, 2009: Bernie Madoff will soon die of cancer.

-September 17, 2009: Internet will be shut down in 2 years.

-February 28, 2010: Within 16 months, at least 15 European nations will collapse.

-March 3, 2010: Staged terror attacks coming April 15 or 19 of 2010.

-March 29, 2010: Massive staged terror attacks coming in the+ next month.

-May 23, 2010: US Dollar will be devalued 50% in next two years.

-December 15, 2010: All pension funds will be gone in a couple of months.[/ex]



I picked a prediction from the list that site used.

The internet will be shut down---2009

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=Sl2NE0GA1u2auM7BtlXO-Q&bvm=bv.50768961,d.b2I
 
I believe the family was the Browns. It was a stand off between them and government, I can't recall the specifics, but the media spun it as if they were in a "compound". All of the links are blocked on my work network, but a google search for "alex jones sells out family" brings up 2 articles at the top which appear to be what I'm talking about. Here's one I can follow:

http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html

So yeah, it was the Gray family, I was close lol



That we agree on 100%, but there's a ton in Ottawa as well ;) I'll check out your nuke thread when I've got more time, I'll be nice you can count on that.

That was FU what he did to the Gray's. At least they're alive. I guess Mr Janet Reno and her minions had to show their power in Waco. It was said that there were alot of patriot groups evolving at that time and thru that scene and OK City kinda dispersed those groups. The govt was involved with OK City. I'm starting a thread on that soon. Being the Dept of Homeland Insecurity bought all those millions or billions of hollow points recently, there's probably going to be more events like Waco in the near future. I think hollow points are against the Geneva Convention if I remember right. Like I said, I haven't been watching his videos lately. He needs to chill out on the ego, arrogant thing and not be such a liar. There was that reporter on Die Hard who Bruce Wilis punched out; that be Alex.

With his predictions he should omit the exact dates because people make fun of him afterwards but he has been right about the police state though and the martial law. Martial law was used when they were looking for the Boston bomber. They pretty much shut down the whole city. I wonder if they got that guy a new boat?
 
Martial law was not declared in Boston.

“The lockdown is really voluntary, to be honest with you,” says Scott Silliman, emeritus director of the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security at Duke Law School. “The governor said he wants to use sheltering in place. Sheltering in place is a practice normally used if you’re dealing with a pandemic, where you’re telling people, ‘You may have been exposed and we want you to stay exactly where you are so we can isolate everything and we’ll come to you.’”
The “shelter in place” request is legally different from a state of emergency, which Patrick declared earlier this year as winter storm Nemo descended on the Bay State. Patrick imposed a travel ban, threatening a penalty of up to a year in prison and a large fine if people were found on the roads. Massachusetts suffered very few fatalities during the storm
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David Koresh was not a 'patriot'. He was the leader of a cult and he used his cult members daughters as sex toys. I have no patience with a man like him. His folks had a choice to come out, not like the folks in Jonestown.

That may have been before your time, but a friend of mine was one of the first reporters that went in there, and years later, he would tear up when he described what he saw there.
 
OK
They used a list published on Infowars, originally from Natural News



I accidentally deleted the info wars site. whoops

But here it is on the natural news site which was then printed on infowars.

http://www.naturalnews.com/028167_predictions_2012.html

Did Alex disagree with any of those predictions?

I don't know, was there word of that he disagreed with the predictions?

We got that straightened out, Alex Jones didn't make those predictions, Mike Adams did.
Muttkat, don't you see you are just making excuses for failed predictions? It's easy to spin anything after the fact and claim it as a win. But a shortage of butter in Norway is not the same as "Food supply disruptions hit western nations". Characterizing the list as 80% true is extremely inaccurate, even with your more open-minded interpretation.

Which are the failed predictions?
It's easy to twist things around too.

Mike Adams stated 79% accuracy.
 
David Koresh was not a 'patriot'. He was the leader of a cult and he used his cult members daughters as sex toys. I have no patience with a man like him. His folks had a choice to come out, not like the folks in Jonestown.

That may have been before your time, but a friend of mine was one of the first reporters that went in there, and years later, he would tear up when he described what he saw there.
I have no fondness for David Koresh. However, in the words of my FBI special agent cousin, "We screwed that one up." There were innocent people in there, no matter how deluded they may have been.
 
According to Alex Jones, everything is eit

But what about all the other things he has said that did happen? Just because 42 things didn't happen doesn't mean the other things aren't going to happen.
So if I say that it will one day rain chocolate at some point in the future, it's not a failed prediction because it could still happen one day in the future.

With his predictions he should omit the exact dates because people make fun of him afterwards but he has been right about the police state though and the martial law. Martial law was used when they were looking for the Boston bomber. They pretty much shut down the whole city. I wonder if they got that guy a new boat?

So basically what you're saying is that Alex Jones should be more vague about his predictions so they are harder to disprove.
Just like the butter shortage scenario, one town or city on lockdown does not equal martial law. As for the police state, I highly doubt that Alex Jones understands what a police state is. We may be on our to a police state, but a couple of cops doing radar checks on the side of the road is evidence of a police state.


If I buy a lottery ticket and by chance manage to get 1 number right out of 5, does that make me some sort of oracle? Is that worth bragging about? Does that somehow validate anything I say?

One constant I that I do see in Alex Jones' predictions is that everything is bad and if it's not bad, it's worse. Can you show us one positive prediction that he has made in his ENTIRE career.
 
No typo, then theres Mr Janet Napolitano also.

Weird sexist burn?
Reno was a woman.

There's a sad and pathetic phenomenon that any woman in a position of power will have her appearance commented on in ways which are not equally applied to male counterparts.
I thought you were making a comment on her relative unattractiveness or something, nevermind.
 
I agree with that, from the beginning it was a mess, and I understand that Janet Reno 'inherited' the plans for that attack from her predecessor. In fact she was NOT the AG at the time of the raid. Even at the time of the fire, she had only been on the job slightly over a month. She had a problem that was not of her doing in a complex case. Why are you blaming her?

She was nominated by President Bill Clinton on February 11, 1993, and confirmed on March 11, 1993.
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The ATF began surveillance from a house across the road from the compound several months before the siege. Their cover was noticeably poor (the "college students" were in their 30s, had new cars, were not registered at the local schools, and did not keep a schedule which would have fit any legitimate employment or classes).[26] The investigation included sending in an undercover agent, Robert Rodriguez, whose identity Koresh learned, though he chose not to reveal that fact until the day of the raid....
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The predictions seem to have originated with Mike Adams and were then circulated and promoted by Jones.

I understand that he 'owns' InfoWars and a lot of predictions show up there. He has to approve of them, or they wouldn't be there.


This seems to be a better list of Jones own nonsense.


http://www.ramblingbeachcat.com/2013/04/alex-jones-brilliant-at-pretending-to.html


On the eve of the year 2000, Alex Jones did a special broadcast that included claims of missiles being launched at the United States by Russia, nuclear power plants failing all over the world, ATM machines not giving people money, short wave radios going down, and that more military conflicts were happening right at that moment all over the world than had occurred in 50 years. Here are some of the highlights:




During this time, Alex Jones apparently forgot that the internet existed and that someone would record what he was saying on the eve of the year 2000. When questioned about his claims in 2010, Jones explained that he was just "joking around" and had simply been taken out of context.
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Another list of predictions

First I stated sorta martial law and then changed it to martial law which from the Governor's comment, I'll stand with martial law.

Governor Deval Patrick called “a massive manhunt.” In his announcement Friday morning, Patrick said “we are ASKING people to shelter in place.” Life, for the time being, would have to be LIVED AT HOME and UNDER SEIGE."

To me this looks like "Martial Law".

Definition of siege:

The surrounding and blockading of a city, town, or fortress by an army attempting to capture it.

Looks like doublespeak to me.

March 3, 2010: Staged terror attacks coming April 15 or 19 of 2010.
AJ got the date right, wrong year.

-March 29, 2010: Massive staged terror attacks coming in the+ next month.---same thing.

Yep, thats probably right, that Alex approved of the predictions.

Which of Mike Adams predictions are wrong?
Martial law was not declared in Boston.

“The lockdown is really voluntary, to be honest with you,” says Scott Silliman, emeritus director of the Center on Law, Ethics and National Security at Duke Law School. “The governor said he wants to use sheltering in place. Sheltering in place is a practice normally used if you’re dealing with a pandemic, where you’re telling people, ‘You may have been exposed and we want you to stay exactly where you are so we can isolate everything and we’ll come to you.’”
The “shelter in place” request is legally different from a state of emergency, which Patrick declared earlier this year as winter storm Nemo descended on the Bay State. Patrick imposed a travel ban, threatening a penalty of up to a year in prison and a large fine if people were found on the roads. Massachusetts suffered very few fatalities during the storm
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Read more: http://nation.time.com/2013/04/19/was-boston-actually-on-lockdown/#ixzz2c68hrqNO

David Koresh was not a 'patriot'. He was the leader of a cult and he used his cult members daughters as sex toys. I have no patience with a man like him. His folks had a choice to come out, not like the folks in Jonestown.

That may have been before your time, but a friend of mine was one of the first reporters that went in there, and years later, he would tear up when he described what he saw there.

Nope it wasn't. The Koresh family was murdered. Yea, I remember the kids sex thing but probably media hype, this is what I found:

1. Two of the Branch Davidian village members had been able to hack into the
Pentagon/CIA/FBI Black Ops databases, and discovered that the CIA with the
utilization of the CIA's Buffalo Airlines, were daily transferring Cocaine,
laundered money, special operations agents, kidnaped children for CIA
pedophile programs, and arms at the World War Two runway that bordered the
Branch Davidian Village.

2. The entire village knew about the CIA's Buffalo Airlines activities that
tied directly to George Bush Senior and his direct involvement with the
CIA, the Mafia,...Columbia...Nicaragua...Panama...and other global locations, that included the global
elites intelligence operations, banking operations, drug transfers, arms
transfers, child pedophile kidnaping and transfers, aircraft refueling,
and global money laundering network.

3. In all of the Waco documentaries, all of the documentaries reveal that
parked in front of the Branch Davidian village main building were observed
several high speed go carts that were used by the branch Davidians who
were carrying out the surveillance of the government Buffalo Airlines
activity at the airport that bordered the Branch Davidian village, in
order to identify and to log the Buffalo Airlines schedules with the two
Branch Davidian members retrial of the CIA's Guns for Drugs transfers that
were going on daily.

4. The Branch Davidian village members surveillance of the CIA Guns for
Drugs transfers were known to the CIA due the CIA computer security having
traced the hacking back to the Branch Davidian Village. Take note: the
main incendiary device that was used by the Special Forces attack on the
Branch Davidian Village was brought about where the commanders of the
genocide were under the direct orders to take out the COMPUTER ROOM FIRST
and then kill all of the inhabitants, and then use this genocide as warning
to any one else who may want to tamper with the CIA/Mafia/global elites
clandestine drugs.....

5. The whole idea as to why the CIA/Mafia/government needed to burn the
Branch Davidian Village down, and kill all of the peaceful inhabitants
was to destroy the computer files, and kill the witnesses to the
CIA/Mafia/George Bush Senior/elite global banking drugs.....

6. The Waco siege BATF/FBI/CIA/Military/State Department/Pentagon/Mafia,
commanders directives were to burn the village, and murder as many of the
Branch Davidian Village members as possible, and destroy all of the
evidence.

7. The Japanese American contract FBI sniper (one of four of the government
snipers who were used to kill off the fleeing women and children from the
burning Branch Davidian village complex) named Lon Horiuchi was the SAME
SNIPER who had murdered Weaver's wife at Ruby Ridge Idaho. Lon Horiuchi
like most FBI/CIA elimination operatives had been psychological PROFILED
by the FBI/CIA for hating white Caucasians due to his having grown up in
World War Two internment camp.

8. It was noted that the very first day of the Waco siege that David Koresh,
and two of the other members had APPEALED to the attacking special military
operation that they had the computer DISCS and they would TURN THEM OVER to
the BATF Special Forces commander and surrender, IF the attacking force would
CEASE fire. The commanders were under orders to kill as many of the
inhabitants as possible and destroy the complex for three reasons, (A)
So there would be as few witnesses as possible to the CIA/Mafia...(B) To let this be a warning to any one
else who may want to mess with the elites global arms, drugs, and money
laundering activities,......


When you know about the dirty deeds of the CIA, you're on your way out. In the last 6 months 2 persons were going to come out with a list of 911 names. One happy family man wrote a book, well he just happened to murder the dog, himself and the 2 kids. The other died in a plane crash.

Before I go to this list, which Mike Adams predictions which do you consider wrong?

June 15, 2008: US Dollar will be devalued 90% over the next two years.

-February, 2008: Hillary Clinton has been chosen by the "elites" to be president.

-February 1, 2009: Obama to stage an attack in 2-4 months.

-February 4, 2009: Inaugural bombings to be staged by US government in 6-7 months.

-February 26, 2009: Staged terror attack to occur before the end of 2009.

-May 17, 2009: 16-year-olds in training to be part of youth corps to help implement martial law in 2-3 years

-June 22, 2009: Obama to stage terror attack in 60-90 days.

-August 24, 2009: Bernie Madoff will soon die of cancer.

-September 17, 2009: Internet will be shut down in 2 years.

-February 28, 2010: Within 16 months, at least 15 European nations will collapse.

-March 3, 2010: Staged terror attacks coming April 15 or 19 of 2010.

-March 29, 2010: Massive staged terror attacks coming in the+ next month.

-May 23, 2010: US Dollar will be devalued 50% in next two years.

-December 15, 2010: All pension funds will be gone in a couple of months.[/ex]



I picked a prediction from the list that site used.

The internet will be shut down---2009

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CEgQtwIwAw&url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0_5uhu8XI&ei=zz4NUvjPI-ri2gXv64CADw&usg=AFQjCNFohD0QOzLg_x9MHpUxYEjgxlgNMQ&sig2=Sl2NE0GA1u2auM7BtlXO-Q&bvm=bv.50768961,d.b2I
 
Reno was a woman.

There's a sad and pathetic phenomenon that any woman in a position of power will have her appearance commented on in ways which are not equally applied to male counterparts.
I thought you were making a comment on her relative unattractiveness or something, nevermind.

Well me and Mr. Reno have something in common, we're both women. She comes across as a man, no big deal.
 
Well me and Mr. Reno have something in common, we're both women. She comes across as a man, no big deal.
Ugh. Look: the idea of a woman who "acts like a man" is like the idea of a cat that "acts like a dog." Janet Reno, or any given woman is just that - a woman. By definition, they act like women: however they behave, that is how a woman acts. Your hangups about gender roles cannot blur this simple reality. A thing cannot act like something that it is not.
 
I agree with that, from the beginning it was a mess, and I understand that Janet Reno 'inherited' the plans for that attack from her predecessor. In fact she was NOT the AG at the time of the raid. Even at the time of the fire, she had only been on the job slightly over a month. She had a problem that was not of her doing in a complex case. Why are you blaming her?

She was nominated by President Bill Clinton on February 11, 1993, and confirmed on March 11, 1993.
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The ATF began surveillance from a house across the road from the compound several months before the siege. Their cover was noticeably poor (the "college students" were in their 30s, had new cars, were not registered at the local schools, and did not keep a schedule which would have fit any legitimate employment or classes).[26] The investigation included sending in an undercover agent, Robert Rodriguez, whose identity Koresh learned, though he chose not to reveal that fact until the day of the raid....
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She still was AG at the time of the siege. She was a aggressive POS dyke drunk who would get pulled over for being drunk, hiring call girls.... and as far as the children were concerned, none or most of them did not need to die the way they did "but we need to show "who's the tough guy" around here, power trip. I blame her for the children, not that she was a drunken dyke, who probably didn't get any DWI's like the rest of us would...well maybe some.

http://www.laborers.org/NorCal_Reno.html


the U.S. Army took over, mounting a 51-day siege. This included such psy-war tactics as sleep deprivation of the inhabitants of the community by means of all-night broadcasts of recordings of the screams of rabbits being slaughtered.

Finally, despite David Koresh's pledge to surrender upon completion of his written explanation of the meaning of the Seven Seals, the FBI and the Army attacked. At dawn on April 19, 1993, and throughout the morning, tanks rammed holes in the main building and pumped (in the FBI's words) "massive amounts" of CS gas into the building, despite knowing that inside were more than a dozen children. The tanks demolished parts of the compound and created tunnels for the wind to blow through. The buildings at this point were saturated with inflammable CS gas and spilled kerosene.

Around midday two U.S. military pyrotechnic devices were fired into the main building, igniting a fire which (because of the holes in the walls allowing the wind to gust through) spread rapidly through the complex of buildings and became an inferno. 74 men, women and children died — including twelve children younger than five years of age. Fire trucks were prevented by the FBI from approaching the inferno. After the compound had burned down the BATF flag was hoisted aloft to signify 'victory'. Subsequently the burned-out ruin was razed in an attempt to remove all evidence of this premeditated murder of innocent civilians by agents of the U.S. government.

http://www.serendipity.li/waco.html
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If Alex Jones was playing in the MLB, his batting average for being right on all his prophecies would be 0.27.
 
Ok , I have had with you. You are homophobic and the earlier post from the anti Jewish site shows that you have other problems as well.

If you want to discuss the Branch Davidians then you need to start a new thread.

You have failed to show that Alex Jones is correct even 1% of the time.

The Gish Gallop about Waco is a distraction.
 
Ugh. Look: the idea of a woman who "acts like a man" is like the idea of a cat that "acts like a dog." Janet Reno, or any given woman is just that - a woman. By definition, they act like women: however they behave, that is how a woman acts. Your hangups about gender roles cannot blur this simple reality. A thing cannot act like something that it is not.

I have a cat who acts like a dog. You throw the rubber ball, she runs and catches it and brings it back to you. Kinda neat.

Why do I have hangups about gender roles?

They act like women? My ex husband worked at a refinery and the supervisor was a dyke who would stand there and adjust her balls that she didn't have, like the men do & use to mess with my husband's head. She had won some suit in the past and would mentally abuse mt husband and he'd be all stressed out. I have issues with these power trip people.

"A thing cannot act like something that it is not."

Yes it can, when it thinks it has balls, when it doesn't.
 
That WACO/CIA smuggling stuff may be interesting, it sounds literally fantastic (the stuff of fantasy) but I am curious as to what of substance is behind it - want to make a thread on it?
Make the claim as clear and precise as you can think of (ie, 'Branch Davidians had proof of CIA child/drug smuggling on behalf of Bush' or whatever).
 
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