Conair spray system workshop photo [C-130 MASS Mosquito Spray System]

Conroy

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For educational purposes only:
In 1988 I workd at the Abbotsford, BC airport for the aerial fire suppression company called Conair in their hangar #1 as an apprentice aircraft mechanic. During that time they were to manufacture eleven prototype spray systems for the US military, systems we later believed were to be used for chemical spray. This group of systems were designed to be installed into C-130 aircraft. My brother was the weldor\fabricator of the first prototype, and took a photo of the system when we realized what we were involved in. We quit working there after that. I've included the photo he took. My red toolbox sits on a work bench in the picture. I was helping with the maintenance, etc., work on Firecat aircraft at the time. The welding shop was behind the delivery unit on the west side of the hangar. The unit my brother made sits on a flat deck semi-trailer, the control panel is on the right, the two small aluminum tanks to the left are purging tanks, the next two longer stainless steel ones are liquid holding tanks, and the two long aluminum tanks on the left are also liquid holding tanks. The spray lines and pumps are under the tanks, ready for hookups that will lead to spray nozzles in the trailing edges of the wings.
Everything other than just the manufacturing details of these units was kept secret and not disclosed to us. We were not told anything else and we were not told who else was involved other than we knew who the owners of the company were.
Anyone can reject, deny or try to debunk our experiences, or be rude, nasty, disrespectful, etc., but it won't change the truth. I'm not going to say any more or reply or get into any discussions unless you were working right there along side us at the time and know something we don't.
It is so very sad that so many people work so hard to deny and disprove we live in a world of many wicked, lying people bent on destroying others for the sake of evil, greed and hatred. They will get their day. God is not mocked, we all reap what we sow.

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Conroy

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...one other important thing I forgot to mention: It is vital to take regular and proper samples of the air, soil, water, plants, etc., before and after the aerial spraying (or what some folks believe is contrails) and get them properly analyzed in an independant lab that has not been compromised and is able and willing to tell the whole truth, then share the truth with the people in an open and uncompromised forum. Sure there are also normal contrails in the sky, but there are proper scientific methods to test.
If this is not done then either people don't have the ability to conduct this research and\or someone has something to hide.
I don't have the means to test, all I know is about what we were involved in and that it appears that many aircraft are now flying in very odd patterns, etc... it seems those aircraft are doing very odd things not considered normal flying. I grew up in the world of flying, so If I was a passenger on some of the planes I observe I would have lots of questions I would be asking.
 

NoParty

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Hi Conroy. Welcome! :D
I'm not entirely clear what you're asserting.

As Mick has pointed out in Post #2, spraying of things like herbicides, etc., is well known...
Heck, U.S. spraying of Agent Orange throughout the '60s
in Vietnam is something every school kid studies.

So you had a hunch in 1988 that you were working on something to disperse something new: "chemtrails" though that idea was virtually
unknown in 1988? Even most people who took up "chemtrail" theory in the last 5 years, think it went back as far as, say, 1995.

So could you please clarify what y'all believed, when, and why? And while my personal world view likely doesn't see as
"many wicked, lying people bent on destroying others for the sake of evil" as you evidently do, I think we all need to watch out for untruth.
No matter who is bringing it, or what they're saying their motives are. Nice lunchbox. btw. :)



p.s. Now that Mick has added (Post #4) the 2003 info on this pic, it seems to validate that it really is your picture, :) since it was also submitted by a "Conroy" in BC. Besides what you learned from the Holmestead site, I'm curious as to what you've learned about the pic in the 11 years since...
 
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WeedWhacker

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In 1988 I workd at the Abbotsford, BC airport for the aerial fire suppression company called Conair in their hangar #1 as an apprentice aircraft mechanic. During that time they were to manufacture eleven prototype spray systems for the US military, systems we later believed were to be used for chemical spray.

As already pointed out....and great photos BTW....so what?

You were at Abbotsford in British Columbia. These were obviously, as you stated clearly, for aerial fire suppression.

These units ALSO are intended to be installed on aircraft for their intended usages. This has nothing at all to do with the myth and hoax of
"chem"trails...the Urban Legend. Because, each and every so-called "chem"trail that has EVER been presented online and in the many Forums
dedicated to the (non)-topic show clearly that it is a CONtrail being formed directly aft of a turbine engine.
 

Mick West

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And of course none of the trails that people have been getting excited about actually come from C-130s. They come from jets, and generally passenger jets.
 

Pete Tar

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It is so very sad that so many people work so hard to deny and disprove we live in a world of many wicked, lying people bent on destroying others for the sake of evil, greed and hatred. They will get their day.
How does proving hoaxes presented as fact are wrong, equal working hard to deny we live in a world of... etc?
You are jumping to a strawman already. Not to mention threatening retribution against people who disagree with you. Not very christian. Or actually, it is, seeing as many christians use their faith as some form of revenge fantasy.
 

George B

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No one is denying the Air Force sprays substances at low levels. Always from C-130s now. The spray systems are modular and can be moved from aircraft to aircraft. I personally have watched several such flights along the Va costal areas and in Texas. Insect suppression was the primary mission. High altitude release of flairs, weapons and chaff are also a common practice but neither low level injection or higher altitude weapon systems are chemtrails or geoengineering.
 

WeedWhacker

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High altitude release of flairs, weapons and chaff are also a common practice...

Just to clarify on your point....your term "High altitude" certainly does NOT mean altitudes of 25,000 feet and above....typical flight levels for commercial passenger and cargo airliners. Correct?

Flares, chaff, etc are sometimes released "high" above ground, but usually WELL below about 10,000 feet AGL, if that high. Sometimes, in training, lower too.
 

George B

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Just to clarify on your point....your term "High altitude" certainly does NOT mean altitudes of 25,000 feet and above....typical flight levels for commercial passenger and cargo airliners. Correct?

Flares, chaff, etc are sometimes released "high" above ground, but usually WELL below about 10,000 feet AGL, if that high. Sometimes, in training, lower too.
Yes, you are correct; however, some weapons can release at higher altitudes. I believe strategic bombing missions could release chaff at higher altitudes as would ballistic missiles.

http://books.google.com/books?id=nvyVf1V8HsoC&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=chaff release by ballistic missiles.&source=bl&ots=PvCwxNgf3r&sig=PXznrj83BDO-B79VvwKIKmRfy10&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wTdcU4GJB-rm8AH40YDABQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwBDgK

B-1 was both a low level and high altitude strategic platform I believe.

 
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pseacraft

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I have see what is considered 'high' flare drops in previous assignments but the altitude depends on the scenario for the training evolution, exercise and ROE. NOTAMs would restrict the airspace from you anyhow. Most times I believe it is considered 'low' altitude however in my job your high altitude is low... hahaha
 

WeedWhacker

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I have see what is considered 'high' flare drops in previous assignments but the altitude depends on the scenario for the training evolution, exercise and ROE. NOTAMs would restrict the airspace from you anyhow. Most times I believe it is considered 'low' altitude however in my job your high altitude is low... hahaha

I have to add....quoting: "ROE" means "Rules of engagement" (for those not familiar with the acronym).

"NOTAM" means Notices to Airmen (USA).

As to the last bit, I just chuckle, and agree there 'pseacraft'. !!! (I think I get it....but, PM me if I'm wrong). ;)
 

Leifer

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Spraying a liquid material from an aircraft is not too difficult....a dry powder is a little more difficult, but nothing ground-breaking....technology-wise.
Still, there are companies developing improvements in these areas......mostly in the "retrofit system loading, refilling, and mode of dispersal" of such material.
All of these systems I've come across have specific purposes......none of which are related to the common "chemtrail conspiracy".
Newer aerial dispersal systems may have multiple uses, or are improved prototypes for already known uses.

To suggest "I don't know what they were for", is not a knowledge that "you do know what they were for".

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JFDee

Senior Member.
We have been discussing a similar - non-military - engineering project earlier. A certain level of confidentiality is to be expected during development of new technology; it's just business practice.

The original 'blow of the whistle':
http://www.reallibertymedia.com/2013/11/exclusive-photos-of-chemtrail-dispersal-system/

Our discussion:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/exclusive-leaked-photos-of-chemtrail-dispersal-system.2772/

The eventual revelation confirmed our member's conclusions:
http://www.rvl-group.com/news/133/
 
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