Claim: Crashed Disc - Sierra Ladrones, NM [Rainwater Catchment - Removed]

[elvenwear]

I was seeing this particular claimed UFO on several sites. The points you raised about there being no real reason to suspect is had ever flown, and discussing various round structures. Those arguments were not carrying the day (always assuming anybody in these discussions was sincere, and they weren't all just larping as gullible UFO fans, I suppose!)

Given that it was getting traction as a UFO, it was worth it, I think, to put it definitely to bed. NOTHING will ever convince all believers -- but now there are pictures taken from the site that shows what it is. It is about as fully debunked as is possible, that will at least help some folks not to be fooled.

It also may draw people to this site.

 

[elvenwear]

...many people (whether ernestly or not) were considering it a UFO mystery and perhaps intending to put themelves at risk to investigate the site in person...

This is an important consideration. That site is 2,000m above sea level and is in very dry area. I've hiked in the Midwest at 1,500m and within a few hours I was getting the shakes due to the lack of oxygen.

 

[FatPhil]

they focus on it because it looks like a flying saucer that crashed into a mountain

But it doesn't. It looks like a circular thing that has been placed on the side of a mountain (and strangely enough, that's what it turns out to be!). What bit of it looks crash-like?

 

[Ann K]

What bit of it looks crash-like?

The edge where the circularity seems to disappear. It looks like a coin half-buried in sand.

 

[FatPhil]

The edge where the circularity seems to disappear. It looks like a coin half-buried in sand.View attachment 71134

I expect crumpling from a crash, plastic deformation. That looks like a brittle fracture, and brittleness is not a desirable quality in a craft.

 

[JMartJr]

That looks like a brittle fracture, and brittleness is not a desirable quality in a craft.

Maybe it's the brittle ones that crash?

But anyway, to the broader conversation, I'm thinking that the point is not so much whether WE would ever look a that and assume it was a crashed flying disk, but a rather that this interpretation was being pushed online and people were falling for it. It was spreading bunk. We debunked it. This is a good thing.

 

[jdog]

I expect crumpling from a crash, plastic deformation. That looks like a brittle fracture, and brittleness is not a desirable quality in a craft.

Crumple zones?

 

[Giddierone]

This guy on Reddit is currently going to take a look:

https://www.reddit.com/user/menntu/

 

[Fetch]

Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[JMartJr]

While this one is thoroughly debunked, one bit of push back I am getting is that a circular guzzler/catchment is not that big. While these things seem to come in multiple sizes, and obviously a "Made my own" units could be any size, it would be helpful if anybody could find pics of a circular guzzler set up that is about 30' across, as this one is, or a supplier that sells them...

Last minute update -- in an attempt to avoid the "seconds after posting that I can't find something, I find it" moment, I did one last search and found this plan, which is closer to the right size judging by the scale (3/16" = 1') unless it has been "blown up" too large on the page of this PDF

Source of image - screen grab from: https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/wildlife-water-guzzlers.313113/
Original PDF linked from that site appears to be gone -- broken link.

But anyway, some more definitive source for this type of guzzler existing in the 30' diameter range would be helpful, if anybody's Internet search skills are looking for a challenge.

 

[Giddierone]

Pictures or it didn't happen.

If only he'd believed this Metabunk thread. His picture shows the same fixture that the BLM sent (see post #68 above).

Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/menntu/comments/1fn6zn5/rainwater_catchment_system_ladron_peak_area/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

 

[Mendel]

If only he'd believed this Metabunk thread

there is value in verifying information.
we now have 2 independent sources that confirm each other.

 

[FatPhil]

there is value in verifying information.
we now have 2 independent sources that confirm each other.

And thence we can update our priors regarding the hypothesis "when the government say it's something other than aliens, it's not aliens" in an upward direction. Everyone's doing that, right?

 

[Fetch]

If only he'd believed this Metabunk thread.

I suffer the consequences of not using emojis + laughing at myself to prompt others to join.

You can also read back just a little ways to see that I'm aware the whole matter is quite resolved.

And by suffer, I mean...

 

[jdog]

I suffer the consequences of not using emojis + laughing at myself to prompt others to join.

You can also read back just a little ways to see that I'm aware the whole matter is quite resolved.

And by suffer, I mean...

Your punishment will be three dunks in a catchment basin and five "Hail Starlinks."