The app is interesting you can "add" different map layers, so like having the hunting map and a satellite map and it will composite them at 50% transparency and overlay markers from both. But there doesn't seem to be any feature in the app to show metadata for markers, and it doesn't appear to have OSM integration.
If the thing was built there, there once must have been some primitive road used to transport it, probably in segments. And if it was a source of water for animals, perhaps it was visited regularly by wildlife investigators.
it seems they use helicopters to fly in materials. But i imagine work crew would want to get as close as possible in a vehicle vs hiking all the way in.
This guy on Reddit is currently going to take a look:
. -More seriously, if they were on their way to the thingy, let's hope they had a safe trip.
Any more news on menntu? I'm worried he/ she might have bumped into one of the armed private UFO retrieval teams recently espoused by Gary Nolan
It looks like MrBBB666 (who made us aware of the "crashed flying disc" in the OP) was misled by the lifted apron of a bighorn guzzler in a remote location. Let's hope he's learnt that caution should go hand in hand with enthusiasm.
Article: Edit: It's Tuesday, 6:48 am. I went to bed excited, and I woke up with a headache, and a sense that I need to reschedule my plans to when the temps are cooler. The high for Bernardo, NM today is around 88, and though that's later in the day, I have to account for the time/ability to cross multiple washes off Salado Road to get as close as possible to the ridge line. We had more rain overnight in the region, and that may play into the quality of the roads/gullies/washes. Simply put, I woke up not feeling optimum, and with this kind of venture, I need 100% of me in place. To this end, given my work and flight schedule, I'm going to resume the hunt on September 22, a Sunday. I'm also going to plot several paths on Google Earth and put those out so you can see the specific excursion route.
Thanks so much to the zillion of you for maps, images, private property lines info, possible course projections, and most of all for joining me in the last 24 hours of adventure - I could feel the excitement and encouragement, as well as the cautionary notes here and there. I'm a bit chagrined as you can imagine, but I know myself well enough to back off when appropriate. For those who want to follow or be notified, put September 22 on your Reddit reminders.
Yeah, it does not seem to be there in frame 299, if not it can't be a structure!
I was following and didn't want to interject with a linear thing. But as I'm new here, it's a first chance to ask...
<** puts on ufologist hat **> Because the original crew died millennia ago, and there being nothing in space to bump into, their descendants don't know how to drive? But obviously they came from a desert planet and thus think a desert location must be the kind of site they seek...
Likely he'll make it to the water catchment and feel some disapointment, but he may stumble across some shards of missle fragment which could be mistaken for extraterrestrial tech....so in an effort to pre-debunk that it might be useful info for people to know the area is littered with shrapnel from various clean up operations. For example:
I got the impression in the Reddit conversation posted by Mick West that Menntu was claiming to be en route:External Quote:
he was. click the link of my above quote..he posts constant updates of what he did and where he tried yesterday.
Good call. I messaged him. I still want to see what it looks like close up though!
I posted a link back here in the thread, saying it had been identified. It might have got lost though.
i PMed him the MB link earlier today. and a reddit link saying it was the hardest hike (and why). He still likes the adventure ..so right now is still planning on going. I told him to bring bear spray because of the bear and mountain lions, and to watch youtubers who hiked it as the terrain looks very rough. He needs to plan the map out better he said as he ran into "washes" etc . If he goes he'll be better prepared i'm sure. (He said ok to the bear spray).
Article: Venomous, heat-sensing and musically inclined. The Western diamondback rattlesnake may be the most infamous snake to call New Mexico home, but the Land of Enchantment boasts almost 50 snake species, including 10 rattlesnake species.
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it just dawned on me. "rattle" snake...THEY make the music?
Yes, this is the reference.
That's a good question for the ChitChat forum (not this topic, which is about the catchment that looks like a flying saucer).
In an effort to map all similar structures in New Mexico with Overpass Turbo you can get limited results looking for the tags man_made=storage_tank content=water, or man_made=water_well.
It returns many results which are round-shaped storage facilities, a handful of which appear to have round guzzler-like structures near them. There doesn't appear to be a specific tag that brings up the exact kind of catchment tanks on Sierra Ladrones, but maybe i'm missing something obvious.
Below is one of their photos taken on 23 April 2024 at 10:54am, along with Google Earth and Peakery Image to show that it's the same location. Two additional images taken the same day follow.
that's funny, so my Facebook pic link in #44 above was actually from that exact location! go figure.
Nice. The Chamber and the Sheriff never replied to me.
I was seeing this particular claimed UFO on several sites. The points you raised about there being no real reason to suspect is had ever flown, and discussing various round structures. Those arguments were not carrying the day (always assuming anybody in these discussions was sincere, and they weren't all just larping as gullible UFO fans, I suppose!)
What are you going to do about it, dock our pay?
they focus on it because it looks like a flying saucer that crashed into a mountain and they get comfort (or are afraid) that a more intelligent civilization might exist and care about us enough to visit.
There was no reason to think it was connected to UFOs, but the video and it's bunk claims gained immediate traction on social media - 45k YouTube views in a few days - many people (whether ernestly or not) were considering it a UFO mystery and perhaps intending to put themelves at risk to investigate the site in person.
It was reasonably novel -- I can't recall ever having heard of a "guzzler" animal watering systm, much less one being claimed as a UFO.
Which people? Firm believers -- maybe not much, but some number of them will see one case that turned out to be nothing much of interest. To folks being drawn in to the entrance to the UFO Rabbit Hole by seeing this case, "it is provably not a UFO" is a good message!
What metric would you propose to decide which UFO claims we should investigate? To me, "it is getting traction and people are beleiving it" is sufficient, but I'm interested in your thoughts if they are different.
I'd be very interested in your thoughts on how to go about that. In the meantime, this is a site with the goal of debunking specific false claims. This was a specific, and false, claim. It fit the "profile" for this site to consider it.
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