These are two blog posts.
The first one explains somewhat circuitiously where the photographer (Kibel) was, and that if the object had been as high as claimed, the chimney of the house would have been visible in the reflection.
The second one explains that the sun was not reflected on the object, and then makes assumptions on when the picture was taken. There is also speculation to why the image looks "stitched together".
Is that about correct,
@Aussiebloke ?
I'd lovr to hear
@Charlie Wiser 's take on this.
G'day Mendel. Thanks for the reply. the post above is the second go, I lost the lot, I was filling you folk in on my blog to make it more understandable, then I just decided to post what I did.
I was answering multible questions to different folk back then covering as much as I could in one go you do realise the blog is old I don't think I mention that.
If the witness move along the double ended arrow line in the sketch "he is always on the left side of the chimney."
Where he shows where his UFO flipped up on end it also is on the left side of the chimney? He says he is an engineer.
Engineers needed to be able to draw (back then) it was part of the course they have to convey to others, designs and how things work etc. He has the photo in front of him can't he see that his sketch sucks (technical speak) wouldn't you have drawn the object on the other side to match the BP photo and come up with a better story there is a reason why he went down that road I have explained some of it.
To make it clear he did not stand where he said in the sketch when taking the photo, wrong end.
The photos on the post above shows the sun rising up over my house I'm on the other side, the side in the shadow do the same with a red brick house at sunrise zoom in on the bowl tell me what you see.
To make it clear (as I explained on the blog) I checked to see where the sun rises in the east behind the EH, the sun works its way along the horizon to where finally rises behind the EH. which is in summer December/Janurary as you see on the BP it was taken early morn, I mean early, it is NOT the sun above the witness on April the 2nd that is reflecting in the object. I'm saying the photo is taken close to the EH that's the image on the object if the object was anywhere near where he says it was in the sky (hundreds of feet) you would just see a shiny object if you zoomed up to the object no matter what size, on end as you approach the object underneath you will from see from horizon to horizon a montage of everything underneath the object but you will not see that from the ground. what you see in the BP is close and right behind him.
I found it a pain throwing my bowl up and bringing the camera to my eye to get my pretend chimney in the photo where it is in the photo then I realised fix the camera to the wooden ladder so my chimney is always in the same spot in every frame now all I have to do is worry about getting the bowl in the frame incidently that is one of the reasons it is taken in portrait.
Now where was I, are yes the jaggered line if the photo was taken earlier in the year as I've stated and left in the camera until some event comes along as it did in April. He most likely wanted to see if the bowl is in the frame, he doesn't have to worry about the chimney that's a given so he peels it back diagonal pleased its there in the frame lets it go and shuts up the camera and the rest is history. I'm thinking he would have come up with the same idea regarding fixing the camera.
"stitched together"
I'll have to go back and read that, when Dr Frieden states that it's two photos join together I expect to see a sample, you know, how it was done step by step so I printed out copies of the BP on a gloss A4 and set about cutting and joining and yes I knew the results before I started I used a stanley knife, apart the obvious not being able to match it was the white card backing in the "V" showing through I believe the Polariod film has a thicker backing more white to show through before I threw the project in the bin cut through the photo a bit over an inch in a bluest part mixed some water based paint trying to match the blue as best as I possible could, ignored shades of white, I filled in the "V" cut wiped off the excess came back later and there was a deep blue line, the white card backing had soaked up the paint and darken down the paint was worse than the white line.
So I email Dr Frieden explaining that I read what he had stated could he enlighten me more and he just copy/pasted the very piece most of you and I have read and his name on the bottom thats it.
Paul Dean found my post stating that and that's where I said yes I'm Aussiebloke.
The part about hitting his is face with the camera is true about the only thing that is true, my extended view finder got me right in the eye, look up at your ceiling keep yout head up then bring your hand up as if you had a camera in it and lining it up with your object up on the ceiling and you will see you are bringing the camera down to your face, with the weight of the camera and the speed/momentum of your arm because you are in a rush you don't quite get to put the brakes on in time.
In his case he had a monster of a camera and has to find the shutter release quickly as well.
However that is early days it evolves as you go along.
The photo with the bird is just a random photo I picked with a clean even blue sky I bought some knives claiming they were scapel sharp and I thought, Hmmm.
There's a vertical and horizonal line after cutting I pinched the two sides together of both cuts and taped them on the back that is the thinest cut I could make and you can still can see a white card backing I think worse on a polariod photo how do you hide the lines in 66?
Zoom in on the bird photo to see white lines.
Assumptions, are when you "think you know" did you know the above regarding the cutting the photo?
Regarding chimney look at the photo of my model roof where the camera is looking down where the bowl is suppose to be "according to Francios," he just threw everything the witness said out the window and stuck the bowl beside the chimney I was directing my comments at him.
I thought of another way to explain it look at the model roof/chimney and stand beside the chimney it's roughly two feet wide by the way look up where Francios wants it and "that is the only time" you will have and image of yourself the chimney/roof/ground/trees etc compressed flat in a half circle cusp as it was getting called, it's because it's what your standing on and behind you that is reflected in the image on the bowl now stand down on the ground as it is in the BP and image is what you are standing on the ground and whatever is behind you.
If he was standing where he said he was in model photo that's what you would see taking the photo at the wrong end you don't do you can you see the ridge capping that would be running along the roof as in the BP? Off To Bed. Cheers Aussiebloke