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  • JMartJr
    Thread about the patent here, US Navy "UFO" patent by Salvatore Cezar Pais (also relevant post #41 by @FatPhil in the Meta Materials From UFOs thread). In that thread, @flarkey linked to The War Zone article "The Navy Finally Speaks Up About...
  • Mauro
    That he's capable of good work just makes it more disappointing that he wastes time on alien spaceship claims.
  • JMartJr
    I'd fold some of those together for simplicity. NOTE: My assumption is that the ultimate goal here is to establish if there is a new phenomenon and, if so, to establish what it is. JM0 -- Things that have been identified, same as their...
  • John J.
    Plus it was allowed to expire. If it was patenting something that actually worked, it would be of extraordinary importance and value. But it was allowed to expire for non payment of maintenance fees?
  • A
    Aaron3 reacted to RTM's post in the thread Debunking Humor... with Like Like.
    If Big ChemBunny can silence you on Nextdoor, they are more powerful than we thought.
  • FatPhil
    National secrets cannot be patented. If anything, this is a counter-intelligence operation, designed to confuse America's adversaries. Or Pais found some military brass without access to reliable science advisors.
  • JMartJr
    Plus it was allowed to expire. If it was patenting something that actually worked, it would be of extraordinary importance and value. But it was allowed to expire for non payment of maintenance fees?
  • FatPhil
    I'm sure you're right, but I'm pretty sure these guys are willing to at least pretend that you're wrong: However, in these patent documents, the inventor Salvatore Pais, Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division’s (NAWCAD) patent attorney Mark...
  • John J.
    Thread about the patent here, US Navy "UFO" patent by Salvatore Cezar Pais (also relevant post #41 by @FatPhil in the Meta Materials From UFOs thread). In that thread, @flarkey linked to The War Zone article "The Navy Finally Speaks Up About...
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  • Gary C
    National secrets cannot be patented. If anything, this is a counter-intelligence operation, designed to confuse America's adversaries. Or Pais found some military brass without access to reliable science advisors.
  • Gary C
    Thank you. There are massive red flags in that wikipedia article: He reported that he began in 2015 to publish his patents "after rejections from academic publishing" No working prototype of any of the patented inventions was ever developed...
  • John J.
    National secrets cannot be patented. If anything, this is a counter-intelligence operation, designed to confuse America's adversaries. Or Pais found some military brass without access to reliable science advisors.
  • Mendel
    National secrets cannot be patented. If anything, this is a counter-intelligence operation, designed to confuse America's adversaries. Or Pais found some military brass without access to reliable science advisors.
  • Mendel
    Mendel reacted to JMartJr's post in the thread Claims of Advanced Tech Recovered from UFOs with Informative Informative.
    Then I'll dump this here: Being a patent lawyer, I had to dig a little deeper because there is a record behind every patent. As you some of you already know, the patent office does not freely give patents for impossible devices. No perpetual...
  • Mendel
    Thank you. There are massive red flags in that wikipedia article: He reported that he began in 2015 to publish his patents "after rejections from academic publishing" No working prototype of any of the patented inventions was ever developed...
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