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Okay, if y'all gonna post glorified rainbows as rare events (I think they are just cases of being in an uninhabitable place at the right time), then I raise you a fixed pole vs. a moving ice sheet.

Okay, if y'all gonna post glorified rainbows as rare events (I think they are just cases of being in an uninhabitable place at the right time), then I raise you a fixed pole vs. a moving ice sheet.

Something was seen in the north, but it doesn't match the other reports (of course, many reports don't match each other). There is a sighting around Prescott at 6PM, so that's 2 hours to get to Phoenix around 8PM. Perhaps it wasn't a rigid...

Okay, if y'all gonna post glorified rainbows as rare events (I think they are just cases of being in an uninhabitable place at the right time), then I raise you a fixed pole vs. a moving ice sheet.

I'd stick with "unverified."

There is no way that the first Phoenix Lights sighting was a hoax by Mike Rogers, or anyone else. First, it crossed almost the entire state of Arizona, by most accounts in less than an hour, suggesting a speed of about 400 mph. So Planes...

That's true. One report that sticks out to me, from a pilot (he was on the ground), has the time as 18:00. All the times on NUFORC are 24-hr format, and I'm sure people must sometimes get it wrong, but I don't think a pilot would accidentally...

I'd stick with "unverified."

I'd stick with "unverified."

I find it hard to believe that a single huge structure such as described (1) existed at all, and (2) was deliberately flown over Phoenix, a huge, busy metropolitan area where even a largish kite would certainly be a traffic hazard if it came...

That is certainly the point where I can't go any farther with the knowledge I have. I figured if any civilian can notice some minute detail showing it's fake, it would be one of the members of this site! I'm leaning towards real footage at this...

The use of less stealthy platforms as the operation progresses is standard procedure for the application of US airpower so your assessment is likely correct on that score. The problem remains that thermal images are even easier to simulate than...

Okay, if y'all gonna post glorified rainbows as rare events (I think they are just cases of being in an uninhabitable place at the right time), then I raise you a fixed pole vs. a moving ice sheet.

This is certainly true of consumer quadcopters, does it hold for larger "war drones" as might be used by, say, Iran?

Okay, if y'all gonna post glorified rainbows as rare events (I think they are just cases of being in an uninhabitable place at the right time), then I raise you a fixed pole vs. a moving ice sheet.