Fred259
New Member
Will you accept the Wickipedia report into the loss of this aircraft.
The cause of the accident was in flight fire leading to electrical failure spatial disorientation and crew distraction.
The aircraft crashed into the Atlantic Ocean east of Halifax at 22.31 Local ( 01.30 UTC) on 2 September 1998.
The Transportation Safety Board Canada concluded after a 57 million CAD investigation that the cause of the accident was in flight fire leading to electrical failure, spatial disorientation and crew distraction.
98% of the aircraft was recovered including the engines. Contained within the report are details that TSB Canada recovered the standby attitude indicator and airspeed indicator showed that the aircraft struck the water at 300kts and in a 20 degree nose down attitude and with 110degrees of bank angle so essentially the aircraft was almost upside down. Less than a second after impact the plane would have been totally crushed killing all aboard almost instantly.
Can we therefore agree that this was not a crash landing into the ocean as you suggest. This was not a ditching.
Can we agree that an aircraft hitting the water at 300kts with 20degrees nose down on its side and almost upside down would essentially be the same as hitting the WTC. Eg it was a truly horrible catastrophic non survivable event.
The report concludes that in less than one second the aircraft would have been totally crushed.
Can we also agree that its equally probable that if Boeing commercial aircraft were flown or crashed into the World Trade Centre and the Office of Naval Intelligence at the Pentagon that its reasonable to assume that in less than one second the aircraft would also be totally crushed.
Can we therefore reach agreement on these points.
The two Swiss Air photographs below are two of the three engines recovered from the accident site and the bottom of the ocean. I have previously described these engines as indestructible therefore can we agree that despite having hit the sea at 300kts and despite having suffered catastrophic failure the engines are essentially one whole component. eg. they look like engines.
On September 11 2001 its alleged that four Boeing aircraft were hijacked. Two were destroyed in New York City, the third aircraft at the Pentagon and the forth aircraft, apparently destroyed in mid air ie shot down with the aircraft wreckage falling in rural Pennsylvania.
Therefore its reasonable to assume isn’t it that if 4 commercial aircraft were lost on September 11 2001 we should have evidence of 8 engines either Rolls Royce RB-211 or General Electric CF6 gas turbine engines which we agree are similar to the Swiss Air engines and therefore indestructible. We should, shouldn’t we be able to distinguish these power plants as destroyed whole components or units. eg. They should look like engines.
Can we therefore reach agreement on these 8 indestructible engines.
These four aircraft also had 4 separate much smaller auxiliary power units (APU) which are also gas turbine engines. Although much smaller in size these engines also being indestructible also need to be accounted for.
The photograph on the left below shows the damaged Swiss engine. In the middle the GE CF6 powerplant for the B767 and below part of an engine found some blocks away in down town New York following the destruction of the WTC.
The Murray Street engine is in fact a CFM 56 gas turbine engine which is the engine of choice for smaller mid range B737 and Airbus A320 size aircraft. In general terms the thrust rating of the engine is circa 25,000lbs and as such falls well short of the 60-65,000 lbs of thrust required for the B757/ 767 family of aircraft.
The engine has been involved in a previous accident and I would suggest has been subject to an investigation by the NTSB. The engine is then deliberately further destroyed to prevent parts and components entering the rotable components after-market.
If we are to agree with the official story then its reasonable isn’t it that 8 badly destroyed whole engines must found. Again these are indestructible so its quite impossible for them to just disappear.
Can we therefore agree Mick, that if you are unable to provide conformation of where these indestructible engines are then we can only assume that the Official account of events on September 2001 is indeed false.
