Triangular UAP spotted by pilot over Potomac - 12/20/2023

[ManInBlack]

On 12/20/2023 a 30ft triangular UAP was spotted by a pilot over Potomac.

What we know...

- Flight number N30024
- Flight date was 12/20/2023, on this day the pilot flew twice (see below, source: https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N30024#flightPageActivityLog)

- Aircraft type: Piper Cherokee Arrow (piston-single) (P28R)

The interaction between the pilot and air traffic control confirmed the following details:

- UAP was spotted 10 miles to the Northwest of Frederick.
- UAP was approximately 30ft tall.
- UAP seen at 6500-6800 ft.
- UAP tall and pointy, like a triangle.
- Pilot took an image of the object from the cockpit of the plane.

(Source:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzipqD6bhvU
)

@Mick West and others, this would be an interesting one to solve. Not LIZ, as others on here.

Do not have the photo, but will attempt to get a copy.

 

[Mick West]

Here's the KML (attached). The incident would be near Myersville. My initial suspicion would be another plane at an odd angle, or possibly aliens.

 

[ManInBlack]

Here's the KML (attached). The incident would be near Myersville. My initial suspicion would be another plane at an odd angle, or possibly aliens.

What is KML?

Isn't it in this order...

1. Aliens
2. Ultraterrestials
3. Future humans
4. Spirits
5. Military secret craft
6. Space junk
7. Meteor.
8. Balloon
9. Another aircraft

 

[Landru]

What is KML?

Isn't it in this order...

1. Aliens
2. Ultraterrestials
3. Future humans
4. Spirits
5. Military secret craft
6. Space junk
7. Meteor.
8. Balloon
9. Another aircraft

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language?wprov=sfla1

Keyhole Markup Language (KML) is an XML notation for expressing geographic annotation and visualization within two-dimensional maps and three-dimensional Earth browsers. KML was developed for use with Google Earth, which was originally named Keyhole Earth Viewer.

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

On 12/20/2023 a 30ft triangular UAP was spotted by a pilot over Potomac.

What we know...

- Flight number N30024
- Flight date was 12/20/2023, on this day the pilot flew twice (see below, source: https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N30024#flightPageActivityLog)
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- Aircraft type: Piper Cherokee Arrow (piston-single) (P28R)

The interaction between the pilot and air traffic control confirmed the following details:

- UAP was spotted 10 miles to the Northwest of Frederick.
- UAP was approximately 30ft tall.
- UAP seen at 6500-6800 ft.
- UAP tall and pointy, like a triangle.
- Pilot took an image of the object from the cockpit of the plane.

(Source:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzipqD6bhvU
)

@Mick West and others, this would be an interesting one to solve. Not LIZ, as others on here.

Do not have the photo, but will attempt to get a copy.

We have no usable data so far.

Altitude in feet is ambiguous. Estimated absolute size, estimated distance and estimated absolute speed tell us nothing. People don't tell you what they saw, they tell you what they think. What if it's close and small rather than large and distant?

Shape of UFO means nothing. People draw pictures of stars with complicated shapes.

A proper witness interview includes questions to find usable data such as degrees above horizon, apparent size. There are techniques to use to find these things. For example, don't ask witness about degrees above horizon, encourage witness to point with a rigid arm.

 

[deirdre]

- Flight date was 12/20/2023, on this day the pilot flew twice (see below, source: https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N30024#flightPageActivityLog)

- Aircraft type: Piper Cherokee Arrow (piston-single) (P28R)

isnt 1700Z 2pm in maryland?

 

[Landru]

isnt 1700Z 2pm in maryland?

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12 Noon EST

 

[deirdre]

at 1 pm a-10s spotted to teh north west of fredrick

Article:

It was a two-ship of A-10s. Did a couple of approaches at the airport and bugged out northbound. Love it when they visit!

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/hagerstown/comments/18n12rr/anyone_seehear_jets_fly_over_around_1pm/

 

[Mendel]

Spoiler: The Wednesday Phenomenon

Ultraterrestials

https://everydayislikewednesday.blogspot.com/2010/07/wednesday-phenomenon.html?m=1

[John] Keel believed in a "superspectrum" which was essentially a higher plane of reality, and the beings native to it were "ultraterrestials" who, Clark writes, "cynically manipulate the human race and individual human beings." They can make humans see whatever they want, and thus toy with humanity.

Writes Clark:

In Keel's revisionist history ultraterretirals "posing as gods and superkings" once ruled the earth, but when democracy became a force in human affairs, these "gods" and their descendants (royal families whose ancestors had mated with ultraterrestrials in human guise) lost their power and authority. Ever since then the ultraterrestials have waged war on Homo sapiens. They have generated religions, cults and secret societies, intervened in the lives of historical figures (Thomas Jefferson and Malcolm X among others) at crucial moments, and otherwise directed human life to serve their ends. God himself is an ultraterrestrial dwelling in the superspectrum.

So how does this tie in to this sighting? Dec 20th was a Wednesday.

In Mothman Prophecies, Keel wrote:

I had collected some seven hundred UFO reports from 1966 and discovered that the greatest number of sightings, 20 percent, took place on Wednesdays.

…

No one except the U.S. Air Force had attempted even a superficial statistical analysis of UFO sightings before, so my findings were greeted with howls of derision by the scientists who posed as experts on the phenomenon. Then Dr. David Saunders of Colorado University fed several thousand sightings into a computer and found the Wednesday phenomenon remained stable. That day produced the largest number of sightings, well beyond the laws of chance and averages.

According to Clark, Keel also noted in UFOS: Operation Trojan Horse that "psychic and occult events seem to follow the same cycles as the UFO phenomenon."

Is there anything to that? Clark's High Strangeness entry on the subject notes that when two other researchers attempted to test the Wednesday phenomenon, they came to different conclusions, and an Allen Hendry noted such studies would be meaningless due to the difficulty of screening out bogus reports from misidentifications.

But Keel himself seemed satisfied with his conclusion that, for whatever reasons, Wednesday is the day when people are most likely to encounter UFOs.

It is also the day on which new comic books go on sale each week.

COINCIDENCE?

I don't know.

 

[Eburacum]

- Pilot took an image of the object from the cockpit of the plane.

Do we have an image of this image yet?

 

[jarlrmai]

So just after take off from Frederick Municipal Airport that aircraft would have been North West of Frederick at about 10 miles and at 4000ft.

It would have been over flown at a small delta of 1550ft by an unusual looking aircraft, a dark grey Cirrus Vision Jet WSP29/N29VJ. The jet would have been going much faster than the prop plane. (89kts/262kts)

ADSB Exchange has them as passing behind, but ADSB lag may mean they were closer or they were looking at the rear when they saw it.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/11025147

Unusual tail configuration streamlined nose and slightly swept back wings may contribute to a seeming triangular shape?

 

[jarlrmai]

correction altitude delta was 1450ft

 

[ManInBlack]

Do we have an image of this image yet?

Unfortunately no... the gentleman wants to remain anonymous.