Some chemtrail/contrail questions from Jump

Jump

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So you "debunkers" are fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78rKNoR4T0w

Tell me those are condensation trails. Explain that away, please.

I've flown quite a bit and have seen contrails with my own eyes. Those in the video are definitely NOT condensation.

That is something being dumped from those aircraft and into the skies. Debunk all you want, but that is perfectly clear in the video. Undocumented flights at civilian airspace level by KC-135 and others is just scary in itself. The first pilot in the video is heard requesting altitude change because of how close the other aircraft are to his own.

Now not ALL of the activity in the video are chemtrails. For instance, at 2:45 or so in the video you can clearly see those are contrails. Now fast forward to 4:05 and you see a completely different thing entirely. That is something, whether it be excess fuel, water, or other chemicals, but it is SOMETHING. It is just as in fast forwarding to 4:57 and beyond in the video. None of that, no matter what anyone wants to say, is NOT condensation. At all.

So if you folks who want to debunk this and shout down what is happening right in front of your eyes want to keep on doing so, to your own detriment, then have at it. But don't think it's all very easily explained away as contrails. Because most of the time, it is not.

And contrails do not persist for hours at a time. Sometimes they hang around for 30 minutes... but to see the same exact lines, when the upper atmosphere is warm, over a span of 5 hours is just not natural. And if it were natural, then why aren't ALL of the civilian airliners making the same trails at 35,000 feet?
 

Mick West

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Undocumented flights at civilian airspace level by KC-135 and others is just scary in itself. The first pilot in the video is heard requesting altitude change because of how close the other aircraft are to his own.
The subtitles in the video do not reflect what is going. The radio traffic sounds quite normal, there's nothing to suggest unknown traffic.

Now not ALL of the activity in the video are chemtrails. For instance, at 2:45 or so in the video you can clearly see those are contrails. Now fast forward to 4:05 and you see a completely different thing entirely. That is something, whether it be excess fuel, water, or other chemicals, but it is SOMETHING. It is just as in fast forwarding to 4:57 and beyond in the video. None of that, no matter what anyone wants to say, is NOT condensation. At all.
You think that this at 4:05:

is not simply a blurry version of something like :


Can you explain why not?

And contrails do not persist for hours at a time. Sometimes they hang around for 30 minutes... but to see the same exact lines, when the upper atmosphere is warm, over a span of 5 hours is just not natural. And if it were natural, then why aren't ALL of the civilian airliners making the same trails at 35,000 feet?[/QUOTE]

Can you show an example of the exact same lines for 5 hours? Here in Los Angeles the wind moves them away pretty quick, but even if the upper air was still they would be very dissipated after 5 hours. I'd love to see what that looks like.

Contrail are ice clouds, so if the air is ice-supersaturated there's no reason for them to quickly vanish.

They don't all make the same trails at 35,000 feet because they don't all fly at 35,000 feet.
 
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Jay Reynolds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78rKNoR4T0w

Tell me those are condensation trails. Explain that away, please.et?
Yes, those are condensation trails. The video you link to ripped off several other videos of ordinary condensation trails being made and puts them to spooky music which seems to have scared the bee-jebus out of you. Revmichellehopkins, tankerenemy, and Harold Saive are semi-pro hoaxers but we caught them red-handed quite some time ago.

Sorry to burst your bubble so hard, call me a prick if you like.

here is what you asked for:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/86...emtrail-tankers-almost-collide-with-fedex-jet

Ask yourself where they would have gotten 100 tons of BLOOD to spray around like that? Think the world is one big Twilight Saga?
 
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solrey

Senior Member.
"Altitude cleared for commercial traffic"? What?

Jump, are you aware that Revmichellehopkins just makes stuff up? She has spun some wildly complicated fiction trying to explain known artifacts in animations of Morphed Integrated Microwave Imagery at CIMSS - Total Precipitable Water (MIMIC-TPW). To wit:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimic-tpw/prodDesc/

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimic-tpw/global/main.html

And a vid of her fictional version of those known artifacts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vlJ2lN9hg8

How anyone believes anything from RevM is beyond me.
 
And if it were natural, then why aren't ALL of the civilian airliners making the same trails at 35,000 feet?
.. suggests you don't know why contrails persist.
when the upper atmosphere is warm
... suggests you do know why contrails persist.

I'm mainly interested in how you are measuring the temperature in the upper atmosphere?
 
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