Sandyhookhoax.com or newagemessiah.net

Glyphyyy

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First time post here we come :D, please excuse me if this has been bought up before.

Was just looking at the Sandy Hook Hoax website 'http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/about.html' what a revelation that was. The about page just links to a whole load of stuff about 'Jay Johnson' and the 'New Age Messiah'. Dig deep enough and its time to buy things from this guy.

http://www.newagemessiah.net/
http://www.lookyourheartinthemirror.com/necklaces.html

Don't forget the bumper stickers!

May as well add it to the list of CT sites full of advertising and shops. *sigh* I remember when conspiracies used to be a good read, now all I see is people getting desperate and clawing at anything.
 
I've been to this guy site on the Sandy Hook hoax, and yet, he's just another follower that believes what other people tell him to believe. I made the mistake of e-mailing him awhile back about the Sandy Hook site and was trying to get him to see that Emilie Parker isn't the girl in the Obama photo, but he rather believe in the conspiracy theories, then believe in the facts. He wasn't that legit to begin with, but it's sad enough, to see him creating bumper stickers and make profit out of it.

But anyways, I really feel you on the last part you said, "...now all I see is people getting desperate and clawing at anything." Conspiracy theories is becoming more of a disinterest to me because Youtubers, blogs and/or web-sites, have bascially turn it into a joke.
 
I've been to this guy site on the Sandy Hook hoax, and yet, he's just another follower that believes what other people tell him to believe. I made the mistake of e-mailing him awhile back about the Sandy Hook site and was trying to get him to see that Emilie Parker isn't the girl in the Obama photo, but he rather believe in the conspiracy theories, then believe in the facts. He wasn't that legit to begin with, but it's sad enough, to see him creating bumper stickers and make profit out of it.

But anyways, I really feel you on the last part you said, "...now all I see is people getting desperate and clawing at anything." Conspiracy theories is becoming more of a disinterest to me because Youtubers, blogs and/or web-sites, have bascially turn it into a joke.
I hear ya buddy.

I personally feel that conspiracy theories are spreading like wildfire lately purely because of the Internets expansion. However if you follow the line back to where it all starts tho its often begins when people on Facebook, YouTube and forums all desperate try to promote what they have 'found out' which then proceeds 'LIKE AND SHARE - SUBSCRIBE - GIVE KARMA IF YOU AGREE'.

Meh its the whole putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 scenario. Your brain see something and and connect the dots that really are not there, its called Patternicity if I'm not mistaken. Great little video on it from the good old skeptic Michael Shermer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_6-iVz1R0o
 
I hear ya buddy.

I personally feel that conspiracy theories are spreading like wildfire lately purely because of the Internets expansion. However if you follow the line back to where it all starts tho its often begins when people on Facebook, YouTube and forums all desperate try to promote what they have 'found out' which then proceeds 'LIKE AND SHARE - SUBSCRIBE - GIVE KARMA IF YOU AGREE'.

Meh its the whole putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 scenario. Your brain see something and and connect the dots that really are not there, its called Patternicity if I'm not mistaken. Great little video on it from the good old skeptic Michael Shermer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_6-iVz1R0o

Agreed. Part of the problem is also that any contradicting evidence/arguments is seen as coming from "shills", "disinfo agents", etc, or at the least they assume anyone who doesn't buy their conspiracy claims must be a "sheeple" who gets all of their information from the MSM. It doesn't help that the HBGary leaks a few years back revealed sock-puppeting software in development. But what I don't think people realize the scope of what is possible with such software. It is impossible(without real AI anyways) for software to automatically create these arguments that counter, refute, debunk, etc, the claims made in conspiracy circles with cohesive arguments. Instead, this kind of software at best spams dissenting opinions in forums which facilitate extremist commentary and things like that.

People actually have to write those criticisms of conspiracy theories. Following the line of thought that it must be the gov't spreading propaganda/disinfo, this implies that the gov't is spending money hiring and funding people who do nothing but argue on FB, twitter, youtube, so on. Instead, for a lot cheaper, a lot less complexity and a lot less headache the government could easily selectively censor any talk of a conspiracy were it real seeing as we all depend 100% on the graces of corporations and the government for our ability to excercise free speech online. Contrast this with a country that isn't so tolerant.

Other key things are:
Finding patterns in random data(can't blame people for this, our brains do it naturally)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

People seem to neglect the existence of confirmation bias when considering the evidence presented for a conspiracy and potentially believing in it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
 
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