Missing 411 : The UFO Connection

[deirdre]

Missing 411 Cluster Map Key
Missing 411 Cluster Map legend
(adding above search terms so others dont have to search as long )

edit add: huge map you can zoom in on https://www.maps-of-the-usa.com/maps/usa/large-detailed-road-and-topographical-map-of-the-usa.jpg

ok this map is basically the exact same key (only difference is the blue bar graph on this key)

 

[Ann K]

From your spoiler, @deirdre, and Tom Spriggs:

These are the active areas of disappearances, showing changes over time. Active regions can start and restart again, and move or change boundaries in the process.

"Active areas of disappearances", being defined solely by what examples they choose to lump together at any time, are not physical entities that can start, restart, move, etc. All it means is that this year there are more cases over here, and last year there were more cases over there. They seem to be treating their chosen regions as if there's a magic fence around them. The woo just oozes out of their pores with wording like that.

 

[deirdre]

From your spoiler,

i've removed it, i only left it to show others how i found the 411 map key. That FB post has nothing to do with the 411 topic as far as we know.

 

[Mendel]

All it means is that this year there are more cases over here, and last year there were more cases over there.

As expected of a random process with small numbers. But when they're invested in claiming it's not random, they're not going to describe it like that.

 

[yoshy]

I'm not sure if this is the right the thread to post on, but I happened upon 2 videos that address Paulides and Missing 411, but not limited to The UFO Connection.



(Copying from YouTube transcript so excuse the poor punctuation and capitalization. Any references to a Mr. Pilates are just instances I missed updating to Mr. Paulides lol.)

recently I was watching one of my very favorite storytellers a YouTube channel by the name of Bedtime Stories. the name of the video was back to the woods addendum it was a rare instance of a YouTube channel taking ownership of a mistake they had made in a previous video. in the video they clarified a statement that they had made concerning missing 4-1-1 and David Paulides.

[Now playing Bedtime Stories excerpt directly]
We [Bedtime Stories] simply stated that he has a tendency to Omit certain details from many of the cases he presents whether this is due to not having all of the information to hand or a deliberate attempt to make some of these cases seem more mysterious than they really are, we cannot say one way or the other.

[Back to Zealous Beast]
They go on to show examples of stories which Mr Paulides had made out to be mysterious but they are actually quite clear-cut and not mysterious at all. the case is mentioned if you're interested were the case of Stephanie Stewart and the death of Miles Robinson. the most startling part of all of this to me was this statement which I will show

[Bedtime Stories]
Out of 40 potentials gleaned from Paulides own books and presentations, we dropped 28 because when we looked at the publicly available information on them we found details which Paulides had not included in his retellings.

The video then goes on to a few different sections:

• Amazon reviews: a few reviews provide further evidence of misrepresented stories
• The Dennis Martin case as presented by Paulides
• Rebuttal of Missing 411's presentation
  • This case was also covered across 3 videos by Missing Enigma, who I recommended on another thread. Presented in order: Dennis Martin - A Great Smoky Mountains Mystery; Dennis Martin Addendum - The FBI Files Finally Released; Dennis Martin - An Interview With The Foremost Investigator On The Case. Missing Enigma similarly finds inconsistencies in Paulides' retelling.

Next up is a video by Joe Scott.



Joe Scott's video is more high level compared to those above, but it's a good overview. He goes over, in brief but effective fashion,

• Dennis Martin
• DeOrr Kunz Jr
• Kenny Veach

Similar to Zealous Beast, Bedtime Stories, and Missing Enigma, Joe Scott comes to the same conclusion: there is no reason or evidence to invoke Bigfoot or UFOs. Most cases can easily be explained by misadventure. Others sadly, like the Kenny Veach case, are a good fit for suicide.

I also like this quote Joe shares:

There's a phrase that I heard a while back about deep sea diving is that when you go into the ocean you reenter the food chain and I think that applies to the Wilderness as well. Like we as a species have become like so disconnected from the natural world. We're so used to living in an environment that we built for ourselves and our own comfort and safety that we forget nature doesn't work like that. Like yes there are wild Predators you know that can attack you but also just uneven ground and and and and trees with with pointy branches you can fall on and poisonous things and it's easy to get lost. There are no right angles like
you're used to. There's extreme temperatures and a lack of water or food. There's there's sink holes and fissures and Ravines and rivers and and nobody that can help you or or sometimes there are people around but they have bad intentions and if some accident does befall you, nature will quickly remove any and all evidence.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Joe Scott's video is more high level compared to those above, but it's a good overview. He goes over, in brief but effective fashion,

That literally popped up on my feed out in the shop an hour ago. Great minds think alike have similar algorithms. I'll have to check it out tomorrow.