WildBill
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John Ramirez-Claims to be retired CIA
He was on the Unidentified Live Stream
Episode Link
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFQtYfOmxxs
Time Stamp 7:05
He Shows A CIA Medal & the Award Documentation as some proof that he was in fact an employee of the CIA
Mr. Ramirez calls this award the "Career Intelligence Medal"
The document supports this, as it also states "Career Intelligence Medal"
I did some quick research on CIA Medals.
The "Career intelligence Medal"
This medal looks different then what Ramirez shows us.
It looks like he's showing us a
"Silver Retirement Medal"
I'm not finding that "fake" versions of these medals are plentiful,
But a search on worthpoint produced this.
link- https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/central-intelligence-agency-cia-inch-1914841324
Unfortunately I don't have an account on worthpoint so I can not see the Date this piece sold.
I'm simply trying to establish that if a person wanted to have their name engraved on one of these medals it is entirely possible.
After he shows us the Medal he says something along the lines of "Just in case if someone says I
got that on eBay"....
Ramirez produces the Paper Award Document.
It's Odd to me, as one wouldn't need eBay to print
a fake document and most defiantly isn't the smoking gun he presented it as.
IMO this document looks "shotty"? Or ... My eyes are crossing on me...very possible.
Specifically, the spacing between his name -"JOHN F RAMIREZ" and the line of text just below it.
The text looks crooked or badly aligned to me. You would think that would be a crisp, clean document yea?
(I understand the screenshots are not the best, if you have time please take a look at the episode for a better image)
There seems to be very few examples of CIA AWARD DOCUMENTS online. Unfortunately, not many that I can find.
Here is one, although it was an award for something else.
link- https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/cia-central-intelligence-agency-10-503939006
What do you guys think about the Medal and Paper?
This was my first post, so please easy on me lol
Cheers
Bill
He was on the Unidentified Live Stream
Episode Link
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFQtYfOmxxs
Time Stamp 7:05
He Shows A CIA Medal & the Award Documentation as some proof that he was in fact an employee of the CIA
Mr. Ramirez calls this award the "Career Intelligence Medal"
The document supports this, as it also states "Career Intelligence Medal"
I did some quick research on CIA Medals.
The "Career intelligence Medal"
This medal looks different then what Ramirez shows us.
It looks like he's showing us a
"Silver Retirement Medal"
I'm not finding that "fake" versions of these medals are plentiful,
But a search on worthpoint produced this.
link- https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/central-intelligence-agency-cia-inch-1914841324
Unfortunately I don't have an account on worthpoint so I can not see the Date this piece sold.
I'm simply trying to establish that if a person wanted to have their name engraved on one of these medals it is entirely possible.
After he shows us the Medal he says something along the lines of "Just in case if someone says I
got that on eBay"....
Ramirez produces the Paper Award Document.
It's Odd to me, as one wouldn't need eBay to print
a fake document and most defiantly isn't the smoking gun he presented it as.
IMO this document looks "shotty"? Or ... My eyes are crossing on me...very possible.
Specifically, the spacing between his name -"JOHN F RAMIREZ" and the line of text just below it.
The text looks crooked or badly aligned to me. You would think that would be a crisp, clean document yea?
(I understand the screenshots are not the best, if you have time please take a look at the episode for a better image)
There seems to be very few examples of CIA AWARD DOCUMENTS online. Unfortunately, not many that I can find.
Here is one, although it was an award for something else.
link- https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/cia-central-intelligence-agency-10-503939006
What do you guys think about the Medal and Paper?
This was my first post, so please easy on me lol
Cheers
Bill