https://thenimitzencounters.com/2018/09/17/david-fravors-statement/
But the interesting thing is:
Then you'd get the mirroring, the circling, the rising to meet him, and then as he cuts across the circle, the illusion of massive acceleration towards and then past and behind him.
I've been trying to visualize what's going on here from his verbal description. His initial description of the clock-code seems odd, as he's heading west and making a right turn, but saysExternal Quote:So as we're flying and we're still heading west. We start looking around. Because of our merged plot, now you're into a visual arena. You're not as much worried about your radar. Plus, the WSOs (Weapons Systems Officer in back seat) are gonna do the radar stuff. But we're still looking out and I look out the right side and I see something in the water. And it looks like about the size of a 737 in the water pointing east. So you don't see an airplane, but if you've ever been out to sea with like an underwater sea mountain, as the waves come and there's something right under the surface, they'll break. Same thing that happens on shore. They'll break and you'll get whitewater. So this thing looks kind of like that shape. Looks, you know… like if you put a 737 about 10 to 15 feet under the water. The waves are gonna crash over the top and you're gonna get this whitewater.
So we see that and so he's pointing the east. So it would be on the right-hand side of the airplane. Just forward of the wing line is this little white thing, which looks like a tic-tac, which is why we call it the tic-tac, and it's moving around erratically. So it's doing this. It's not hovering, you know, it's not. It's moving just randomly around. Not fast just kind of left right forward and back. There's no rotor wash, which you see from a helicopter. It's just this odd object. And so by this time we passed by it and now I'm starting a right hand turn. So we're going from a clock-code, from six o'clock towards the 9:00 o'clock position. And I'm like, well that's interesting. I said, "well, I'm gonna go check it out".
So at about the nine o'clock, between probably nine and ten, I started an easy descent. And I'm watching this thing and it's just kind of randomly moving around this vehicle. And it's basically forward of the right wing by the cockpit and then it goes back and it's kind of moving around like it was checking it out. That's kind of odd.
So as we passed through about the twelve o'clock position and we're descending. It kind of recognizes that we're there and it starts to mirror us. So now, think of it at the six o'clock position we're at the 12 o'clock position. We're coming down and it starts coming up. So it's going towards nine o'clock and we're going towards three o'clock. And we do this all the way around until I get all the way back towards about the nine o'clock position. So I'm still coming down nice and easy and I'm watching this thing. Because it's just kind of watching us and following. And I'm like that's kind of weird. So now there's probably about, let me think, 2500, it's probably about maybe 3,000 feet below us and about a mile across the circle. It's about the size of an F-18. So you know 47 feet long. But it has no wings. I don't see any exhaust plume, you know, like an older airplane would have smoke. There's none of that.
So as I come across, I'm a little above him. He's at the 3 o'clock position and I go, "well the only way I might get this is to do an aggressive out-of-play maneuver". So I dump the nose and I go from the 9 o'clock through the vertical down, to go across to the 3 o'clock. So he's over here and I go like this (motions cutting across the circle). So as I get down to about, I'm probably about 60 degrees nose low a little, pulling through the bottom. It starts to accelerate. It has an incredible rate of acceleration. And it takes off and it goes south. And it takes off like nothing I've ever seen. It literally is one minute it's there and the next minute it's like, poof, and it's gone.
So I came up on the radio and I said, "hey let's just spin around and go back to what was in the water, let's go see what was in the water." So right there, it's kind of below us, you know. So I'm kind of heading to the east. So we do a 180 and go back to the location we're at and there's nothing in the water. So I call up the Princeton and I said, 'hey did you guys, do you guys have all this?" And I was talking back and forth to the controller.
Is West six o'clock? Maybe just a random illustration of the direction of turn.External Quote:I'm starting a right hand turn. So we're going from a clock-code, from six o'clock towards the 9:00 o'clock position.
But the interesting thing is:
All of this is the Tic-Tac mirroring him. Now if you've got a featureless object over a mile away, and you don't know how big it is, then it's possible that you misjudge where it actually is. If, instead of being a 47 foot object on the other side of this clock face circle, near the water, it's actually a 23 foot in the MIDDLE of the circle, and HALF WAY to the ocean surface. And it's not moving much. Like a balloon.External Quote:So as we passed through about the twelve o'clock position and we're descending. It kind of recognizes that we're there and it starts to mirror us. So now, think of it at the six o'clock position we're at the 12 o'clock position. We're coming down and it starts coming up. So it's going towards nine o'clock and we're going towards three o'clock. And we do this all the way around until I get all the way back towards about the nine o'clock position. So I'm still coming down nice and easy and I'm watching this thing. Because it's just kind of watching us and following.
Then you'd get the mirroring, the circling, the rising to meet him, and then as he cuts across the circle, the illusion of massive acceleration towards and then past and behind him.