Debunked: Video of UFO behind a cloud, dropping flashing blue lights [Viral Marketing Hoax]

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[Admin] This is a three year old viral marketing hoax by Brazilian PR company Atitude Comunicacao. It was originally uploaded like the above in low resolution. The HD video is here:
And the "reveal" video is here:

Here's the website of the product:
http://www.atitudemediabox.com.br/ovni/
 
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Bruno D.

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Well, it's portuguese (Brazilian), and at about 0:50 someone says:
- I can't see anything ...
And the guy filming says:
- You can't see anything from where you're standing, you need to watch it at the machine (camera).

I could translate the rest, but it's not worthy it. There are only interjections like: "what the f." , "look at that", "it's turning", "it's coming down" and so on.

At the end they say that the camera battery is dying and they aren't able to keep filming.

Everything sound like a prank.
 
Well, it's portuguese (Brazilian), and at about 0:50 someone says:
- I can't see anything ...
And the guy filming says:
- You can't see anything from where you're standing, you need to watch it at the machine (camera).

I could translate the rest, but it's not worthy it. There are only interjections like: "what the f." , "look at that", "it's turning", "it's coming down" and so on.

At the end they say that the camera battery is dying and they aren't able to keep filming.

Everything sound like a prank.
I kinda figured so much thanks
 

Mick West

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I zoomed in and enhanced the video slightly:



:)

Source:

It was part of a viral marketing campaign.
 
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Pete Tar

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It's interesting how they've designed it, those weird vertical parts that seem to rotate with it - what are they supposed to be and why did they think of it? They're not an obvious thing to have - maybe they included them as something to speculate on.
...
^^^
Hang on, what? Hot girls eating pizza?
 

Soulfly

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I know there are ways to see if a photo has been altered, is there a way to check to see of the video has had CG added?
 

Mick West

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I know there are ways to see if a photo has been altered, is there a way to check to see of the video has had CG added?
You can analyze individual frames of the video in the same way you would analyze a photo. But there's no 100% method. It can be harder for video as there is often more compression, and lower resolution.

In this case there's not a lot in the original video that can be pointed to as an automatic fake, as it's too small. You might be able to get somewhere with analyzing the lighting, and going frame-by-frame to see if the overlapping is consistent - but again video compression might make this impossible.
 

Jason

Senior Member
You can analyze individual frames of the video in the same way you would analyze a photo. But there's no 100% method. It can be harder for video as there is often more compression, and lower resolution.

In this case there's not a lot in the original video that can be pointed to as an automatic fake, as it's too small. You might be able to get somewhere with analyzing the lighting, and going frame-by-frame to see if the overlapping is consistent - but again video compression might make this impossible.
Just out of curiosity Mick, are there any UFO photos or videos that you or anyone contributing to this site have not been able to debunk. Something that was a bonafide U.F.O..
 

Mick West

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Just out of curiosity Mick, are there any UFO photos or videos that you or anyone contributing to this site have not been able to debunk. Something that was a bonafide U.F.O..
Sure, anything that's just a dot of light in the sky is hard to positively ID, and remains "unidentified". There's generally plausible explanations though, just not confirmed.
 

Keith

New Member
Hey Mr. West,
Could it be possible that the brazillian video was fabricated by someone who would persuade the public to believe that it was not an actual event?
 

Mick West

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Hey Mr. West,
Could it be possible that the brazillian video was fabricated by someone who would persuade the public to believe that it was not an actual event?
No. It's clearly a marketing stunt. does this look real to you?


And they have video of the two guys from across the road. Which would be impossible if it were real.
 

Keith

New Member
No. It's clearly a marketing stunt. does this look real to you?


And they have video of the two guys from across the road. Which would be impossible if it were real.
The referenced images was not what i was referring to but the first person video which hit the internet before the above is what I was getting at. Just entertaining the thought that maybe the video about pizza boxes and it's "viral marketing" ads could very well be a cover up in itself.
 

Mick West

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The referenced images was not what i was referring to but the first person video which hit the internet before the above is what I was getting at. Just entertaining the thought that maybe the video about pizza boxes and it's "viral marketing" ads could very well be a cover up in itself.
What do you think?
 

Keith

New Member
What do you think?

Well, if you watch the first person video, keep an eye on 3 things. The height of the ground to the right when he first gets out, the wheel's hubcap of his car, and the windshield wipers position. Now compare them to the image of the second hand view of the car. Now keep in mind that I am reviewing the original video from my smart phone and not a full monitor but I noticed some very subtle differences. Can you see it more clearly on your end?
 
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Mick West

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Well, if you watch the first person video, keep an eye on 3 things. The height of the ground to the right when he first gets out, the wheel's hubcap of his car, and the windshield wipers position. Now compare them to the image of the second hand view of the car. Now keep in mind that I am reviewing the original video from my smart phone and not a full monitor but I noticed some very subtle differences. Can you see it more clearly on your end?
Yes, it's not shot at the same time. The cars driving past are different. But it's at the same car, and the same place.

Viral marketing hoax explains the video perfectly. It fits all the evidence. There's no evidence that it's not a viral marketing hoax, and a lot of evidence that it is.

So why is there any need to consider other suggestions? One might as well suggest that E.T. (the movie) depicts a real alien.

Do you have any evidence that E.T. was not real?

Same thing.
 

Keith

New Member
Yes, it's not shot at the same time. The cars driving past are different. But it's at the same car, and the same place.

Viral marketing hoax explains the video perfectly. It fits all the evidence. There's no evidence that it's not a viral marketing hoax, and a lot of evidence that it is.

So why is there any need to consider other suggestions? One might as well suggest that E.T. (the movie) depicts a real alien.

Do you have any evidence that E.T. was not real?

Same thing.
You bring up a very sad but very true point. It is extremely difficult for anyone in our current age to prove and convince to someone on the internet what is real or fake, E.T. or C.G. , conspiracy or commercial. With our technology now days, anything can be written off as a hoax. What is left is what we witness with our own eyes and faith that others will believe what you say you saw. I feel very sorry for the lone witness.
 

Mick West

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You bring up a very sad but very true point. It is extremely difficult for anyone in our current age to prove and convince to someone on the internet what is real or fake, E.T. or C.G. , conspiracy or commercial. With our technology now days, anything can be written off as a hoax. What is left is what we witness with our own eyes and faith that others will believe what you say you saw. I feel very sorry for the lone witness.
Which brings up the question of why UFOs are never seen by multiple people with cameras. It's a lot harder to fake, and a lot harder to keep the story straight.

The lack of multi-camera footage of a UFO is pretty strong evidence that there's nothing special there.
 

Mark Barrington

Active Member
Which brings up the question of why UFOs are never seen by multiple people with cameras. It's a lot harder to fake, and a lot harder to keep the story straight.

The lack of multi-camera footage of a UFO is pretty strong evidence that there's nothing special there.
That's certainly true in current age where a large percentage of the people walking around in public have high quality cameras in their pocket that are ready to shoot stills or video within a few seconds of seeing something interesting. Back in the 50s or 60s, it was a lot less common to have a camera on hand for some random interesting experience.
 
Ok something stinks here. I have came across the video link that shows 3 videos one low resolution one HD of this video. And then there is the third video which is what people are claiming as proof this was a marketing spoof and the third was shot across the street from the Car in question. But my question is what happen to the 18 wheeler that is very visible in the shot from across the street. What happen to it in the other two videos look at the timing when the guy steps back in the video in both and the time the semi truck blows by you would / should still see it in the frames of the other two. Pay attention to these three videos, and that time frame in them. I call BS on the video that the site called Metabunk.org claims as a Debunking video something stinks. Please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something.
 

Mick West

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Ok something stinks here. I have came across the video link that shows 3 videos one low resolution one HD of this video. And then there is the third video which is what people are claiming as proof this was a marketing spoof and the third was shot across the street from the Car in question. But my question is what happen to the 18 wheeler that is very visible in the shot from across the street. What happen to it in the other two videos look at the timing when the guy steps back in the video in both and the time the semi truck blows by you would / should still see it in the frames of the other two. Pay attention to these three videos, and that time frame in them. I call BS on the video that the site called Metabunk.org claims as a Debunking video something stinks. Please correct me if I'm wrong or missing something.
No you are not missing anything about the videos, they were shot at different times.
 
So I guess my question is how would this debunk the first video? If someone shows me the video shot in the hands of the man exiting the car with the 18 wheeler going by then I could lay this to rest as a debunked video but I only seeing the video that shows no 18 wheeler and the debunk is only a few second clip of anything close to the first video shot Right? I would debunk it if someone tracks down pound for pound video that matches across the street footage with the real video if Im not mistaken the video in question has a smaller reddish box truck at one point with writing on the side at 39 seconds into the video. If I was to see the across the street shot that shows the few vehicles you can make out in the videos in question. Then I would lay this to rest but as for me something stinks about the Debunk Just my opinion
 

Mick West

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So I guess my question is how would this debunk the first video? If someone shows me the video shot in the hands of the man exiting the car with the 18 wheeler going by then I could lay this to rest as a debunked video but I only seeing the video that shows no 18 wheeler and the debunk is only a few second clip of anything close to the first video shot Right? I would debunk it if someone tracks down pound for pound video that matches across the street footage with the real video if Im not mistaken the video in question has a smaller reddish box truck at one point with writing on the side at 39 seconds into the video. If I was to see the across the street shot that shows the few vehicles you can make out in the videos in question. Then I would lay this to rest but as for me something stinks about the Debunk Just my opinion
No they just didn't shoot the clips at the same time. Clearly though it's still the marketing campaign. They showed video that matches the "ship".
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Something stinks? you think this is deliberate deception on Mick's part?

If what has been presented isn't sufficient to show this a hoax/ad, then you're free to believe anything you wish.
 
Im new to this site I came across it on FB in a chat someone posted this as reference. Im just pointing out the facts that this has some holes in it that would leave me suspect. I'm not some freak that thinks Its a big cover or a Deliberate deception on Mick's part but if we look at the evidence in question anyone should admit to debunk something it should show a better video that compares pound for pound proof. That's all I'm asking is that not fair?
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Holes that would leave you to suspect there was a weird ship in the sky that dissolves into energy balls?
Isn't it more likely there's holes in that?
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
So I guess my question is how would this debunk the first video? If someone shows me the video shot in the hands of the man exiting the car with the 18 wheeler going by then I could lay this to rest as a debunked video but I only seeing the video that shows no 18 wheeler and the debunk is only a few second clip of anything close to the first video shot Right? I would debunk it if someone tracks down pound for pound video that matches across the street footage with the real video if Im not mistaken the video in question has a smaller reddish box truck at one point with writing on the side at 39 seconds into the video. If I was to see the across the street shot that shows the few vehicles you can make out in the videos in question. Then I would lay this to rest but as for me something stinks about the Debunk Just my opinion
? the same man filmed and uploaded both videos. showing the same car even.
 
yes it sounds very crazy to me, but as I live my life I take into account as much facts as I can to come up with what my best guess could be. While this being an UFO I'm not sold on, but also in my opinion I,m no sold on this video clip debunking the original video either. Just come across these and in a quest to better understand I see something that sells some people as good enough. But I would love to find the missing footage and that might not be possible and I'm fine with that but to call this a cracked case I would need it. lol
 

Balance

Senior Member.
Did you read the first post? It appears, following criticism, the producers improved on the original. Why not contact them for proof?

Not to mention their "spot the 7 mistakes" competition. :rolleyes:
 

Soulfly

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yes it sounds very crazy to me, but as I live my life I take into account as much facts as I can to come up with what my best guess could be. While this being an UFO I'm not sold on, but also in my opinion I,m no sold on this video clip debunking the original video either. Just come across these and in a quest to better understand I see something that sells some people as good enough. But I would love to find the missing footage and that might not be possible and I'm fine with that but to call this a cracked case I would need it. lol
You say you're not sold on it being a UFO but that the 2nd video isn't why you think that. I'm curious as to what it is that makes you feel it is not a UFO then?
 
once again I JUST came across this and this was the first link I found with footage being sold as a debunk. I signed up for a account and asked a simple question to each there own I would assume some are fine with this a a final answer and some are not. yes its good place to start asking them to thanks for the advice. But this is a good place to hear others thoughts which i respect to. I'm not calling anyone lairs here just asking questions. ;0
 
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