Debunked: FEMA Camps for 2 million People in Alaska

Mick West

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I'd heard of "FEMA Camps" - supposed prison camps set up by FEMA to imprison hundreds of thousands of America. When others had looked into it, it always proved to be nothing more that railway yards, army bases, or nothing in particular. There was zero evidence to suspect a conspiracy. For a general debunking, see:

http://www.infobomber.org/2009/05/07/citizens-guide-to-fema-camps/ (http://archive.today/qg3ZL)

Likewise with this particular aspect of the claim:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59023/pg1 (http://archive.today/1GoA6)

There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

The claim is quite ridiculous. There's nothing like that anywhere in Alaska - at least not that anyone can point to. It hardly even bears debunking, it's so out there.

But how did such a claim get started. I've been trying to track down the original source. Most version of the story include this paragraph, which dates back to the earlist I can find at September 28th, 2000.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openyourthirdeye/message/4530 (http://archive.today/C5Jcr)

A person named Terry Kings wrote an article on his discoveries of camps
located in southern California. His findings are as follows:

Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be
prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites
and wanted to see them for ourselves.

This is the start of the article that started it. The part about 2,000,000 people camps in Alaska was added later.

http://webspace.webring.com/people/nu/um_8596/reports3.html (http://archive.today/eu3NM)

This root article starts with the header:

Why All The Prison Camps?
By Terry Kings terrykings@hotmail.com

And ends

You don't think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and
killed didn't think it could happen to them either. How could decent people
have witnessed such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do
the same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are taking
a stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose the truth happening
behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit there and wonder what happened
to this country of ours? Where did we go wrong? How could we let it happen?

Wake up before it is too late to do anything about it. We just might be
approaching the midnight hour.

That final line was removed in later versions, perhaps as the midnight hour passed.

So who is Terry Kings? He seems to have left no mark at all on the internet besides this one "article", so it seems likely it's a pen name. Who added the 2,000,000 person camp in Alaska? Unfortunately it seems to be one of those conspiracies, like chemtrails, that started just as the internet was gearing up, hence much of the original online material is lost. We may never know where the claim came from - but we do know that even though it's entirely baseless, it's probably going to keep running for another ten to twenty years.
 
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Mick West

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Interesting one of the posts in the Yahoo group (maybe egroup at the time) that had an early mention was as kind of Black Power/Awareness group, and had the following posts a bit earlier:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/openyourthirdeye/message/771 (http://archive.today/ww13V)
[FONT=Georgia !important][Open-Your-Third-Eye] Re: KKK is just the surface, just wait for Bush's "Skull & Bones"[/FONT]



PEACE:

Thank you "Hebrew" for reminding us all about the Global 2000 plan
(initiated by Jimmy Carter). Also, don't forget about the "King Arthur
Plan" and the underlying mandates of FEMA.


Your warning to our sleeping people reminds me of the book of Ezekiel,
chapter 37, where the Son of Man was asked, "can these bones live?",
refering to the dry bones in the valley. The Lord told him to PROPHESY to
them, but the bones made a noise and shook, and came together and flesh
appeared on them, BUT ". . . there was no breath in them", it says.

ONLY after the Son of Man prophesied to the WIND, and the four winds
whipped over them did ". . . breath came into them, and they lived, and
stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. "

Our people need the hard, whipping four winds to get on our backsides
before we stand up, unite and "fight the power" of oppresion and tyranny
over us. The winds are police brutality, high prison populations,
injustice in the legal systems, school shootings, KKK (and other racists),
loss of hard-won protective legislation, passing of covert laws that take
away civil liberties....

Why do we have to learn the HARD WAY?

LM

To: openyourthirdeye@egroups.com^
cc: (bcc: Letha Muhammad/APA)
Subject: [Open-Your-Third-Eye] KKK is just the surface, just wait for
Bush's "Skull & Bones"




Now that all so-called liberal white opposition is out of the way with the
death of
John-John K, Bush & Bush will have it for maybe 16 years. Plenty of time
to catch up on
the Global 2000 Plan to eliminate 2B useless black faced eaters. It is sad
that we, Black
AmeriKKKans, won't wake up until the Gestapo comes knocking on our doors to
haul us off the
death camps or forced labor camps {Death Row & the new Prison--Industrial
Complex}


WAKE UP!

So a post mentioning FEMA, and forced labor camps. And the "King Arthur Plan", which was a fictional plan to detain African Americans:

http://ourstorian.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/remembering-richard-wright/ (http://archive.today/7WmFg)

... African American writer John A. Williams published his brilliant [1967] novel “The Man Who Cried I Am.^” Williams’ book told the story of Wright’s ex-patriot years in Europe through the life of a character named Max Reddick and offered the controversial theory that Wright was murdered by the CIA. It also presented the details of what Williams referred to as the “King Arthur Plan”—a secret U. S. government act which included legal provisions for the mass incarceration of African Americans in concentration camps by the military in the event of civil unrest. The “fictional” plan was based on the McCarran Internal Security Act, which at the time was a little-known U.S. federal law with broad provisions for the emergency detention of U.S. citizens. The law also required Communist organizations to register with the U.S. Attorney General, and is noteworthy for providing the legal basis for the revocation of Paul Robeson’s passport to prevent him from traveling abroad.

Bridging the King Arthur plan and current FEMA fears is the Rex-84 plan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a secretive "scenario and drill" developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declares a "State of Domestic National Emergency". The plan states that events that might cause such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invadeCentral America.[1][2][3][4][5][6] To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels.[7]

And of course, preceding and informing all of this was the internment of Japanese Americans during the second world war.

Japanese-American internment was the relocation and internment by the United States government in 1942 of approximately 110,000Japanese Americans and Japanese who lived along the Pacific coast of the United States to camps called "War Relocation Camps," in the wake of Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.
 
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Jay Reynolds

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Back in the mid-nineties, the Amtrak Railcar Repair Facility at Beech Grove, Indianapolis, Indiana was being called a "Death Camp" complete with crematoriums:
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/camp.htm (http://archive.today/Nwljn)

Fifteen years on, no deaths, but they have done some hiring and are rebuilding rail cars:
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?ID=36778 (http://archive.today/oVFUI)

Popular Mechanics did a piece on this subject in 2009:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/4312850 (http://archive.today/0k0v3)
 
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Although as a Montana resident I will state that there are a few open prisons built and manned in Montana but no occupants currently (Hardin, Mt) and one under construction in Glasgow,Mt
 

Grieves

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Anyone who believes America needs secretive camps to imprison large percentages of its population fails to comprehend the rate at which large percentages of the American population is already being incarcerated with no great secrecy whatsoever.
 

Mick West

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Anyone who believes America needs secretive camps to imprison large percentages of its population fails to comprehend the rate at which large percentages of the American population is already being incarcerated with no great secrecy whatsoever.

Yeah, but what if they wanted to incarcerate more. There's no room in the current prisons.

I'm not saying there are FEMA prison camps, but the current large prison population is not an argument against them.
 

Nayeli Elyan

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Not to mention if there was some master plan to mass exterminate people--- Why not start with all the ones who are in Prison first and voila -- Gov can save money by using the available space instead of spending what's claimed to be BILLIONS of dollars for all these 800 additional camps.
 

Aumir

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Not to mention if there was some master plan to mass exterminate people--- Why not start with all the ones who are in Prison first and voila -- Gov can save money by using the available space instead of spending what's claimed to be BILLIONS of dollars for all these 800 additional camps.
answers should include: its profitable if you get $10 to build a "prison" and you spend $5, giving $4 to other interested parties (happenes all the time), prisoners could be used for many purpeses if needed (staged outbreaks to have military involved, using them on front lines etc) .
Namaste
 

Landru

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answers should include: its profitable if you get $10 to build a "prison" and you spend $5, giving $4 to other interested parties (happenes all the time), prisoners could be used for many purpeses if needed (staged outbreaks to have military involved, using them on front lines etc) .
Namaste

There is zero evidence for FEMA camps. In Alaska or anywhere else. If you have proof please provide it. Do not make baseless conjectures.
 
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