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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/10-signs-global-elite-are-losing-control.html
on some sort of "council of elders representing all races and ethnicities who would work solely in the best interests of
humanity." Nothing to debunk, no evidence of the actual claim is presented.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163052/americans-confidence-congress-falls-lowest-record.aspx
A later poll that asked about mass media in general showed that 44% trusted "a great deal" or a "fair amount" while 55% trusted "not very much" and "not at all."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/164459/trust-media-recovers-slightly-time-low.aspx
Thus, claim 3 is bunk.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/sunday-review/how-did-hungarys-election-become-a-circus.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissent_by_Military_Officers_and_Enlisted_Personnel#United_States
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news...cle_5c22bc4a-c534-11e3-8ecb-0017a43b2370.html
The Colorado "movement" appears to have no steam.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest...-Colorado-Rural-voters-approve-secession-idea
The Spanish Catalan secession movement has plenty of steam, and Spain has a hell of a history, so it wouldn't be exactly shocking.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/po...am-amid-spain-financial-woes-but-experts-see/
Scotland's secession seems touch and go:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ependence-panelbase-poll-boosts-yes-1-3347389
http://www.dangeroustalk.net/a-team/GMO
My first try at a full debunk, please feel free to add, subtract, and correct.
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/10-signs-global-elite-are-losing-control.html
A lot of this isn't really debunkable, but I'll try to go through each claim.1. Official lies no longer effective: The lies they tell simply don't work anymore. There was a time when official lies, especially about war and peace, were believed. Because, after all, how evil would it be to lie about such things? Generally people want to believe they are being told the truth when life and death is at stake. The boy who cried wolf has cried one too many times. Even if they told the truth at this point, very few would believe them.
2. No confidence in politics: US politicians have a paltry approval rating. The trust in government is at all-time lows here and around the world. Mainstream polls show only 10% of the public has confidence in Congress. In other words, 90% don't believe in them to be competent to govern.
Watch this Town Hall exchange below where a man threatens US Senator John McCain with arrest for treason to his face. This would have never happened just a year or two ago:
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3. No confidence in media: The most recent polls show that 77% of the population no longer trusts corporate TV news. Is it any wonder why the establishment media failed to sell the lies about the alleged Syria chemical event? With all their monopoly might over the airwaves, they can no longer claim that black is white simply because officialdom says so.
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4. Bankers rejected: Hungary recently became the first country to follow Iceland's lead by shedding international bankers (IMF) and is considering pursuing prosecution of past prime ministers who enslaved the people with debt.
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Look for this trend to continue even if nations decide to default to break free.
5. Vatican abruptly cleaning up its act: Under the previous Pope, Pope Benedict, scandals erupted from the Vatican ranging from covering up pedophile priests to money laundering and fraud. Benedict, in an unprecedented move, abruptly retired to make way for a seemingly much more likable Pope Francis. Pope Francis by all measures is working furiously to reclaim the church's peaceful and humble reputation. Whether this is genuine or a PR move, it's telling that the church was forced into such a drastic turnaround to save itself from losing all credibility.
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6. Mutiny among soldiers: Finally. Soldiers, who are outlawed from making political statements, are steadily speaking out against US military adventurism. As Einstein famously said "The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service."
7. Militarized police state: One of the darkest signs that the elite are losing their grip on power is the construction of the militarized police state specifically trained to combat domestic civil unrest. Local cops with tanks and other combat gear are working with Feds at Fusion centers, active Army units are on American soil for the first time in history, the NSA spy grid is being used by the IRS and DEA, and the elimination of due process for Americans under the NDAA are just some of the tyrannical moves made to secure the elite criminals from public backlash. They're clearly scared, and they should be given what they've done to the American people and the Constitution.
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8. Serious secession movements everywhere: A state seceding from a larger political entity used to be an ultra-fringe concept, until now. In America, secession movements are winning over the public in parts of Colorado and California. In Europe, serious secession movements are happening in Spain and Scotland, as well as several EU nations flirting with the idea of dropping out of the euro. Decentralization = Entropy!
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9. GMO food being rejected everywhere: Control the food and you control the people. True in theory, but much more difficult in practice. GMO leaders like Monsanto are being exposed. All of their economic and political strength cannot defeat the spread of knowledge about the dangers of pesticide-soaked Frankenfoods. GMO fields are being burned in protest in America and around the world, informed nations continue to reject their products, and labeling laws are gaining traction.
10. Cannabis liberation: Many reading this will think marijuana legalization is a superficial development. However, it is a major signpost that the elite's grip is fading. Enormous resources have been spent to keep cannabis illegal. Cannabis has been a powerful medicine for physical, mental, and spiritual health throughout the ages. This single plant represents a huge threat to the power structures and their industries, hence its seemingly senseless illegality. The approaching global reversal of the tyrannical policy of prohibition is the first of many concessions to come.
An internal link goes to a page that basically says that the people, not TPTB must create a NWO based not on tyrrany, but1. Official lies no longer effective: The lies they tell simply don't work anymore. There was a time when official lies, especially about war and peace, were believed. Because, after all, how evil would it be to lie about such things? Generally people want to believe they are being told the truth when life and death is at stake. The boy who cried wolf has cried one too many times. Even if they told the truth at this point, very few would believe them.
on some sort of "council of elders representing all races and ethnicities who would work solely in the best interests of
humanity." Nothing to debunk, no evidence of the actual claim is presented.
Clearly false. Nobody remembers the Bush years?2. No confidence in politics: US politicians have a paltry approval rating. The trust in government is at all-time lows here and around the world. Mainstream polls show only 10% of the public has confidence in Congress. In other words, 90% don't believe in them to be competent to govern.
Watch this Town Hall exchange below where a man threatens US Senator John McCain with arrest for treason to his face. This would have never happened just a year or two ago: (video not linked here)
The poll I think they're referencing actually shows the percent of people who trust newspapers and TV news "a great deal" or "quite a lot." This number is 23% for both. It does not include those who answered "some," and the question of mistrust was not actually asked.3. No confidence in media: The most recent polls show that 77% of the population no longer trusts corporate TV news. Is it any wonder why the establishment media failed to sell the lies about the alleged Syria chemical event? With all their monopoly might over the airwaves, they can no longer claim that black is white simply because officialdom says so.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163052/americans-confidence-congress-falls-lowest-record.aspx
A later poll that asked about mass media in general showed that 44% trusted "a great deal" or a "fair amount" while 55% trusted "not very much" and "not at all."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/164459/trust-media-recovers-slightly-time-low.aspx
Thus, claim 3 is bunk.
Nothing much to debunk. As far as I can tell, the same government that brought in the IMF is in charge, and some opposition candidates are calling for prosecution. This does not mean that Hungary "is considering pursuing prosecution of past prime ministers who enslaved the people with debt."4. Bankers rejected: Hungary recently became the first country to follow Iceland's lead by shedding international bankers (IMF) and is considering pursuing prosecution of past prime ministers who enslaved the people with debt.
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Look for this trend to continue even if nations decide to default to break free.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/sunday-review/how-did-hungarys-election-become-a-circus.html
Not debunkable, this is all conjecture.5. Vatican abruptly cleaning up its act: Under the previous Pope, Pope Benedict, scandals erupted from the Vatican ranging from covering up pedophile priests to money laundering and fraud. Benedict, in an unprecedented move, abruptly retired to make way for a seemingly much more likable Pope Francis. Pope Francis by all measures is working furiously to reclaim the church's peaceful and humble reputation. Whether this is genuine or a PR move, it's telling that the church was forced into such a drastic turnaround to save itself from losing all credibility.
No evidence of "mutiny" presented, can't debunk. Here's a (very short) list of notable US military dissenters. All about Iraq, so certainly not recent.6. Mutiny among soldiers: Finally. Soldiers, who are outlawed from making political statements, are steadily speaking out against US military adventurism. As Einstein famously said "The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissent_by_Military_Officers_and_Enlisted_Personnel#United_States
So....the increased tyranny is evidence that tyranny is nearly done for? Ok... At any rate, aside from blogs, the only articles I found say that the DEA was sharing info with NSA and IRS, among others, not the other way around.7. Militarized police state: One of the darkest signs that the elite are losing their grip on power is the construction of the militarized police state specifically trained to combat domestic civil unrest. Local cops with tanks and other combat gear are working with Feds at Fusion centers, active Army units are on American soil for the first time in history, the NSA spy grid is being used by the IRS and DEA, and the elimination of due process for Americans under the NDAA are just some of the tyrannical moves made to secure the elite criminals from public backlash. They're clearly scared, and they should be given what they've done to the American people and the Constitution.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805
The first two examples are parts of states considering secession from their states, not the US. The CA one has some steam, it's unlikely to ever make it via initiative or legislation, though, as SoCal vastly outnumbers them.8. Serious secession movements everywhere: A state seceding from a larger political entity used to be an ultra-fringe concept, until now. In America, secession movements are winning over the public in parts of Colorado and California. In Europe, serious secession movements are happening in Spain and Scotland, as well as several EU nations flirting with the idea of dropping out of the euro. Decentralization = Entropy!
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news...cle_5c22bc4a-c534-11e3-8ecb-0017a43b2370.html
The Colorado "movement" appears to have no steam.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest...-Colorado-Rural-voters-approve-secession-idea
The Spanish Catalan secession movement has plenty of steam, and Spain has a hell of a history, so it wouldn't be exactly shocking.
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/po...am-amid-spain-financial-woes-but-experts-see/
Scotland's secession seems touch and go:
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ependence-panelbase-poll-boosts-yes-1-3347389
No evidence is presented here that GMO are dangerous. The only claim is that some people don't like them. This is true, sadly mostly due to lots of disinfo from sites like naturalnews.9. GMO food being rejected everywhere: Control the food and you control the people. True in theory, but much more difficult in practice. GMO leaders like Monsanto are being exposed. All of their economic and political strength cannot defeat the spread of knowledge about the dangers of pesticide-soaked Frankenfoods. GMO fields are being burned in protest in America and around the world, informed nations continue to reject their products, and labeling laws are gaining traction.
http://www.dangeroustalk.net/a-team/GMO
No debunkable claims here, just conjecture and woo-like statements not supported by any evidence. Yes, legalization has happened, maybe it will be nationwide. Yes, lots and lots and lots of money has been spent in the War on Drugs®. Uruguay (a nation of 13 million) legalizing marijuana is hardly a sign of a coming "global reversal."10. Cannabis liberation: Many reading this will think marijuana legalization is a superficial development. However, it is a major signpost that the elite's grip is fading. Enormous resources have been spent to keep cannabis illegal. Cannabis has been a powerful medicine for physical, mental, and spiritual health throughout the ages. This single plant represents a huge threat to the power structures and their industries, hence its seemingly senseless illegality. The approaching global reversal of the tyrannical policy of prohibition is the first of many concessions to come.
My first try at a full debunk, please feel free to add, subtract, and correct.