Chemtrail debate challenge.

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
This is the "Hard Proof" he has for "chemtrails".
http://constitutionalvoices.org/bloggers/freedomblogger2/?page_id=2109

I think with that in his arsenal, he'd have a hard time in debate.

I could do this online in a similar fashion to his face-to-face debate.
Based on the wall of links and photos there (he even has a couple of my photos, lacking the explanations), it seems he favors the Gish Gallop method of debating. Such debates are unproductive, as they are not at all focussed, they simply allow the bunk promoter to spew out a huge list of bunk, of which the skeptic will only have enough time to refute one or two points, and to the believer it will seem like the bunk promoter has "won" as he made more points.

 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member
I could deal with all of those in the 90 minutes he proposes each debater would have, as well as showing some real evidence against the idea of chemtrails.

He has 8 main thrusts, each of which have significant logical and factual errors. 5-7 minutes each would debunk them and introduce most of the real evidence against chemtrails at the same time. That leaves more than 1/2 hour to present the detailed evidence against chemtrails which the average chemtrail believer including Jeff, has no clue about because they isolate themselves and only know what they've been told, and which is really the most devastating to the hoax.

You can see, though, that he places so many conditions on the debate that he is really only interested in working on an elected official who he assumes would not be prepared.

The key to avoiding the tedium is to distill the opponents arguments down then kill them off.

There is no need to fear these people. We've seen all their arguments before, they have purposely stayed away from ours. We see it daily and how easily they are dispatched. Yes, we might not convince them personally, but what we offer is far better than anything they have come out with, which is why all their leaders shy away. They know.
 

Nessa Celery

New Member
I see a potential stumbling block.

"Then publically debate me according to my rules."

"Audience cheering, booing etc. shall be discouraged by both debators at the beginning & end of each 5 minute turn at the microphone.
Any person becoming boiserous and interrupting the flow of time will be ejected. Security shall be deemed only by me. This will be a civil event not a Jerry Springer Show. And if you or any of your guest is out of the line with the rules you shall be ejected."
 
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