Bilderberger Group Cover-up In The Media (Explained)

In a prior posting about the secretive Bilderberg Groups annual meeting, Mick (Metabunk.org admin/owner) and possibly a few others said that there has never been a cover up of the meeting by the media and Mick provided some examples of older newspaper articles mentioning the groups meeting as proof that the media was not trying to deny the meetings existence. At the time I did not know how to properly debunk that explanation, to detail how that was not evidences that there was no organized effort in the media to deny the Bilderberger meeting. Today I found an excellent rebuttal to Micks debunking in the form of a comment made by the recently departed Aaaron Schwartz whom I believe most here have heard of.

In a January 2008 email to Brett Bonfield, Aaron made the following statement regarding Watergate.

“But I tend to disagree with the if-only-they-knew-the-truth school of thought. Watergate happened not because the story came out -- COINTELPRO started in 1956; stories like this came out all the time in the independent press -- it was because Nixon went after someone powerful (the DNC) who could fight back. Had it been Nixon burglarizing the Socialist Worker's Party offices again, the Post never would given the story such attention and Woodward and Bernstein would have been stayed on the cub beat. So airing the stories is good, but it's nowhere near enough. We need an alternate system for making them interesting and getting them to people. And that's much harder.”

In this statement Aaron explains that news about some event can be found within publicly distributed media and there still not be reporting of the event and or passive denial of said event by not giving it the level of reporting attention it would otherwise for whatever reason and because of COINTELPRO (BS info put out by the CIA/Feds as disinformation in an attempt to muddy the information over all and make it difficult to determine what is real and what is not) . In the case of Micks news paper references, the Bilderberger Meeting and group has been dismissed in the general media for many years up until the last 2-4 years. Once news of the group’s annual gathering found its way on the front page of the DRUDGE REPORT it was then no longer something that could be reported and still denied through the lack of reporting it properly.

Think of a retraction that the newspaper has to print when it gets something wrong or when the video news media has to do the same for incorrectly reporting some event. In both cases the retraction is reported in a way so as to give it as little attention as possible while still being able to say “we reported it”. The mainstream news papers over the last 3-5 decades would passively deny the Bilderberg’s existence and its annual meeting by not allowing mention of it on the front page of a major paper or by reporting it at the same time as some other major event is occurring which provides cover so that the readership does not take note of the Bilderberger meeting.

Just this week several pieces of legislation have been pushed thru Congress in an attempt to get them passed while the nations news focus is on the Boston Massacre. Since the media has the Boston event to report on over and over they can either skip over mention of what Congress doing or at least burry that news amongst all the Boston related reporting.

At this point the debunking of the Bilderbergers has gone from denial of its existence to denial of its being something troubling, worrisome or even potentially illegal and or alarming. To that I say this, if the NFL Team owners gathered together annually for 2-3 days to meet in a place where no one from the media was allowed except for those willing to agree to not talk about what was said at the meeting, and after which when the meeting was over all who attended said “we cannot comment on what was discussed” there would be cries of outrage and price fixing across the country. However you let the same happen with leaders in finance, business and sciences and government along with the worlds wealthy elite and anyone who says this is concerning is called a conspiracy theorists. That’s not right and it’s a shame that the debunking community actively defends the groups meeting as being “Nothing to be concerned with”.
 

HappyMonday

Moderator
In a prior posting about the secretive Bilderberg Groups annual meeting, Mick (Metabunk.org admin/owner) and possibly a few others said that there has never been a cover up of the meeting by the media and Mick provided some examples of older newspaper articles mentioning the groups meeting as proof that the media was not trying to deny the meetings existence.

Here's the original thread I think you're referring to for those who might want to read it -

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/601-Where-Is-the-quot-Bilderberg-Debunked-quot-Thread-At
 
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jvnk08

Senior Member.
BlueCollarCritic said:
Just this week several pieces of legislation have been pushed thru Congress in an attempt to get them passed while the nations news focus is on the Boston Massacre. Since the media has the Boston event to report on over and over they can either skip over mention of what Congress doing or at least burry that news amongst all the Boston related reporting.

Well, what does this have to do with the Bilderberg meetings, other than lending credence to the idea that government does shady things?

Furthermore, what legislation was rushed through? CISPA only passed the House, and just yesterday we saw it stalled indefinitely in the Senate: http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-dead-in-senate-privacy-concerns-cited-7000014536/

The mangling(but not repeal) of the STOCK act was the same day as the bombing. Are we to imply the government orchestrated or used the bombing in order to do so without anyone noticing? There was actually quite a bit of coverage from the press on it, the Daily Show even did a segment.

I know of no other (significant, at least) legislation pushed through during that week.
 

F4Jock

Senior Member.
Well, what does this have to do with the Bilderberg meetings, other than lending credence to the idea that government does shady things?

Furthermore, what legislation was rushed through? CISPA only passed the House, and just yesterday we saw it stalled indefinitely in the Senate: http://www.zdnet.com/cispa-dead-in-senate-privacy-concerns-cited-7000014536/

The mangling(but not repeal) of the STOCK act was the same day as the bombing. Are we to imply the government orchestrated or used the bombing in order to do so without anyone noticing? There was actually quite a bit of coverage from the press on it, the Daily Show even did a segment.

I know of no other (significant, at least) legislation pushed through during that week.

The Bilderbergers have been meeting for years. Common knowledge. Also: The Bilderbergers are not a government entity. They are also not a public corporation. On what grounds can we force them to allow the press to cover their meetings?

 

jvnk08

Senior Member.
The Bilderbergers have been meeting for years. Common knowledge. Also: The Bilderbergers are not a government entity. They are also not a public corporation. On what grounds can we force them to allow the press to cover their meetings?

Ah, yes. Didn't mean to imply they were government. From what I understand there are people from within various world governments in attendance. BlueCollarCritic's assertion about rushed legislation bears little relevance IMO, which is what I was getting at.
 

F4Jock

Senior Member.
Ah, yes. Didn't mean to imply they were government. From what I understand there are people from within various world governments in attendance. BlueCollarCritic's assertion about rushed legislation bears little relevance IMO, which is what I was getting at.

I agree. To me, the interesting and unacknowledged part follows:

So this is being considered clandestine?
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
. At the time I did not know how to properly debunk that explanation, to detail how that was not evidences that there was no organized effort in the media to deny the Bilderberger meeting.

You state quite literally- "organized effort in the media to deny the Bilderberger meeting";

Reporting of the meeting- regardless of the first page or last page- is, in FACT, not a denial of its existence. The very premise of your position is false.

That you place a subjective value on the meeting and the subsequent reporting thereof does not change that fact.

As Aaron said: "We need an alternate system for making them interesting and getting them to people."

Perhaps its simply because the Bilderberg meeting is just not that interesting to people and/or people do not fear them as much as you that it is not more widely reported.
 

OddFuture

New Member
To that I say this, if the NFL Team owners gathered together annually for 2-3 days to meet in a place where no one from the media was allowed except for those willing to agree to not talk about what was said at the meeting, and after which when the meeting was over all who attended said “we cannot comment on what was discussed” there would be cries of outrage and price fixing across the country. However you let the same happen with leaders in finance, business and sciences and government along with the worlds wealthy elite and anyone who says this is concerning is called a conspiracy theorists. That’s not right and it’s a shame that the debunking community actively defends the groups meeting as being “Nothing to be concerned with”.

No, the thing is that the Bilderberg group is boring to most people and sports aren't.

I also do not see why the Bilgerberg meetings are supposed to be so creepy. Do you really think industry heads do not talk to each other and scheme outside of the meeting? All they have to do is get on a conference call with one another. Capitalists trying to exploit the Earth for their personal gain is nothing new, it happens everyday.
 

Oxymoron

Banned
Banned
You state quite literally- "organized effort in the media to deny the Bilderberger meeting";

Reporting of the meeting- regardless of the first page or last page- is, in FACT, not a denial of its existence. The very premise of your position is false.

That you place a subjective value on the meeting and the subsequent reporting thereof does not change that fact.

As Aaron said: "We need an alternate system for making them interesting and getting them to people."

Perhaps its simply because the Bilderberg meeting is just not that interesting to people and/or people do not fear them as much as you that it is not more widely reported.

Perhaps you underestimate the number of people who are very interested and do fear them. Perhaps if it was more widely reported far more people would be interested/fearful and enlightened.

When Libor fixing was not widely reported, people had little interest, fear or understanding of the implications. Now they are far more interested because they realise the massive detrimental impact it has on billions of peoples lives, driving many into homelessness and poverty whist at the same time further enriching the wealthiest even more by allowing insider trading involving profits of many billions, if not trillions.

This money comes from somewhere... it comes from normal peoples incomes and pension funds which means they are paying in to their pensions only to enrich the super rich even more. it comes from businesses forced into failure because they are wrong footed by the manipulators, it comes from private investors who are fleeced by price fixing manipulations which are designed to fleece them in a sophisticated con.

Secret meetings and price fixing is something to fear.... evidence is the millions of people who have gone into poverty over it and the millions who have died or suffered terrible hardships and losses as a direct result.

It is illegal.

It is immoral

It is despicable

Can you deny it increases the chances of insider trading and manipulation?

Do you really think these meetings are about 'bettering things for the people'?

Do you think it is far more likely that the meetings are about increasing corporation and personal wealth at the expense of others?

This is the type of thing we are talking about here... there are many, many more examples.

This site offers an in depth analysis of the level of corruption being perpetrated on the people... it is on multiple levels and the people involved are precisely the people who are likely to be involved with Bilderberg meetings.

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/...n-5-year-scheme-involving-bribes-and-payoffs/

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/03/is-the-justice-department-conspiring-on-the-libor-conspiracy/

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/...police-powers-with-glock-22s-and-patrol-cars/
 

George B

Extinct but not forgotten Staff Member
Perhaps you underestimate the number of people who are very interested and do fear them. Perhaps if it was more widely reported far more people would be interested/fearful and enlightened.

When Libor fixing was not widely reported, people had little interest, fear or understanding of the implications. Now they are far more interested because they realise the massive detrimental impact it has on billions of peoples lives, driving many into homelessness and poverty whist at the same time further enriching the wealthiest even more by allowing insider trading involving profits of many billions, if not trillions.

This money comes from somewhere... it comes from normal peoples incomes and pension funds which means they are paying in to their pensions only to enrich the super rich even more. it comes from businesses forced into failure because they are wrong footed by the manipulators, it comes from private investors who are fleeced by price fixing manipulations which are designed to fleece them in a sophisticated con.

Secret meetings and price fixing is something to fear.... evidence is the millions of people who have gone into poverty over it and the millions who have died or suffered terrible hardships and losses as a direct result.

It is illegal.

It is immoral

It is despicable

Can you deny it increases the chances of insider trading and manipulation?

Do you really think these meetings are about 'bettering things for the people'?

Do you think it is far more likely that the meetings are about increasing corporation and personal wealth at the expense of others?

This is the type of thing we are talking about here... there are many, many more examples.

This site offers an in depth analysis of the level of corruption being perpetrated on the people... it is on multiple levels and the people involved are precisely the people who are likely to be involved with Bilderberg meetings.

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/...n-5-year-scheme-involving-bribes-and-payoffs/

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/03/is-the-justice-department-conspiring-on-the-libor-conspiracy/

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/...police-powers-with-glock-22s-and-patrol-cars/
Very interesting stuff . . . Me thinks most people don't even fathom the economic systems of the world . . . it is way too esoteric for most of us to understand . . . so the insiders always have the upper hand . . . many of us don't even know the questions to ask much less process the answers . . . :(
 

jvnk08

Senior Member.
Secret meetings and price fixing is something to fear.... evidence is the millions of people who have gone into poverty over it and the millions who have died or suffered terrible hardships and losses as a direct result.

It is illegal.

It is immoral

It is despicable

Can you deny it increases the chances of insider trading and manipulation?

Do you really think these meetings are about 'bettering things for the people'?


I don't think anyone doubts those things exist. Hopefully our regulatory system will prevent egregious examples of them, and in the future I hope we can give more teeth to regulators to ensure that they don't. Big Telecom is a great example of this going on in plain site however, thankfully Google Fiber is bringing some disruption to the sector.

With that said, your claim about millions going into poverty and dying as a direct result of what supposedly is going on at this meeting are hyperbole at best and unrelated at worst. Net people have actually escaped poverty in the last few decades: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/half-a-billion-people-escaped-poverty-2005-2010/

We reached the UN millenium goal of halving world poverty by 2015.... sometime in 2007. 500 million people. The truth of the matter is that a greater percentage of the world's population are enjoying higher standards of living than ever before in human history.

It's no secret the US and other developed countries have lost a lot of jobs - this is because the manufacturing sector has largely moved to the developing world, not a result of price fixing in financial markets.
 

Oxymoron

Banned
Banned
I don't think anyone doubts those things exist. Hopefully our regulatory system will prevent egregious examples of them, and in the future I hope we can give more teeth to regulators to ensure that they don't. Big Telecom is a great example of this going on in plain site however, thankfully Google Fiber is bringing some disruption to the sector.

With that said, your claim about millions going into poverty and dying as a direct result of what supposedly is going on at this meeting are hyperbole at best and unrelated at worst. Net people have actually escaped poverty in the last few decades: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/half-a-billion-people-escaped-poverty-2005-2010/

We reached the UN millenium goal of halving world poverty by 2015.... sometime in 2007. 500 million people. The truth of the matter is that a greater percentage of the world's population are enjoying higher standards of living than ever before in human history.

It's no secret the US and other developed countries have lost a lot of jobs - this is because the manufacturing sector has largely moved to the developing world, not a result of price fixing in financial markets.

I am speaking about the last few years, not the last few decades. It is directly attributable to the economic crisis which is directly attributable to the banking system and the high leverage betting system involving complex scams such as fraudulent selling of known toxic products which brought down the system and enriched many of the key players at the expense of everyone else and was payed for by taxpayers money.

It was known as too big to fail.

Now in light of the proven illegal actions in insider trading and price fixing, it is also known as too big to jail.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iIRBj5vXMdHbPk592mz3c-kZtEfw

 

SR1419

Senior Member.
The Bilderberg meeting isn't "secret" - its private.

Equating a Bilderberg meeting with the LIBOR scandal is typical Oxy Gish Gallop...
 

JRBids

Senior Member.
Secret meetings and price fixing is something to fear.... evidence is the millions of people who have gone into poverty over it and the millions who have died or suffered terrible hardships and losses as a direct result.

It doesn't really seem very secret at all. The secret meetings are the ones you DON'T know about. What's to keep these heads of everything from talking on the phone or writing each other?
 

Oxymoron

Banned
Banned
It doesn't really seem very secret at all. The secret meetings are the ones you DON'T know about. What's to keep these heads of everything from talking on the phone or writing each other?

Another proponent of 'the cia, secret service, etc are not secret because we know about them and they have a web site. Ok.
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
:) Isn't that like saying the CIA or Secret Service aren't secret?

No- because we know who meets, when they meet, where they meet and what they talk about.

There is nothing clandestine about it.

If they really wanted to coordinate nefarious activities do you think they would gather so visibly and publish their attendees (attendees who differ from year to year)?
 

Adam

Member
I guess that's a consequence of living in a world where most of our media is for-profit. They print stories that sell papers (or whatever). They need to sell ads. For the vast majority of readers, there is nothing remotely interesting or sexy about the Bilderbergers. If there were, it would probably be on the front page - and the group would disband and then reconvene in some other form.

I can't say they don't trouble me a bit and yeah, I suppose I don't like the fact that they talk about stuff in private. But I don't really see this as a media cover up. Although it's entirely possible that some media outlets may bury coverage, I haven't seen anything here remotely close to evidence of that.
 

Lost World

New Member
I'm prepared to accept - to some degree - that Bilderburg is little more than a philosophical talking shop for a bunch of over paid pampared parasites, but I still don't think the arrangement to be particularly healthy in democracies. As JFK said, and I misquote "The very idea of secrecy is repugant" He was opposed in principle to 'secret societies' and how one may pedantically choose to define a secret society is really another debate.

With regard to media cover up. There isn't so much a cover up as there isn't actually denial of the existence of the group. Not any more at least. It's more a case of general lack of headline coverage. G8 and G20 meetings are fanfared at great volue in the media, and the minutes published openly online. In more recent years Bilderberg have actually been publishing attendee lists and agendas on line. They can be found here..

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/index.php
 

SR1419

Senior Member.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/02/week-ahead-bilderberg-2013-watford



 

Bruno D.

Senior Member.
No, the thing is that the Bilderberg group is boring to most people and sports aren't.

I also do not see why the Bilgerberg meetings are supposed to be so creepy. Do you really think industry heads do not talk to each other and scheme outside of the meeting? All they have to do is get on a conference call with one another. Capitalists trying to exploit the Earth for their personal gain is nothing new, it happens everyday.

It's much easier to plot against humanity on a Skype Conf Call. You don't need to leave your house and you don't need to try to accommodate 3 days of the agenda of lots of big guns out there. God, whoever tried to get any useful output from a meeting with 10 people know that it's a waste of time. Imagine 150 trying to decide anything!!

And they have different backgrounds and specialities, so each one would try to approach the subjects in different ways and for different goals. It's a real nightmare. And as it's "off the records", any decision taken there can be easily dismissed by the very people who took them when they analyze it with more time.

If I were trying to plot against humanity I would never choose this structure.

I do believe that important concepts will be discussed and deals will be made at Bildeberg, but it could happen also at a post-oscar party or at a pre-superbowl event. If you put powerful people at the same place, meeting at an unofficial agenda, important things are going to happen. Some of them are going to be great for all of us, others are going to f** lots of us, and others are going to sink even before they come out of paper.
 
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