A cigar-shaped unidentified luminous object captured on a Xinjiang passenger aircraft [Likely Ski Area]

Just found this video of Urumqi streetlights by night

https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1106162223-urumqi-china-aerial-view-night-top-on?dd_referrer=https://www.google.com/

In this orientation the line to the top is the highway where the bridge is. The image overlay.kml should open it in google earth
1768588203191.png
 

Attachments

The image overlay.kml should open it in google earth
I get a missing image icon. The download is only 745 bytes so something seems to be amiss.

1768593684507.png

However I have now put the other flight track in Google Earth which shows a good match with the landmarks in the video:

1768593648878.png



@flarkey - I see the problem, the KML file is pointing at a locally saved image on your desktop. I'll edit it to use the image above and see if it works.
 
Last edited:
Amending the KML file worked - although the lights that are most visible in the aerial photo are not the same ones that are most visible from the plane vantage point - see this marked up version (not terribly well angle matched but you get the idea). Again the incoming flight track is shown in the distance.

1768594583527.png
 
Again the incoming flight track is shown in the distance.
So the key point now is, suppose it's a distant flight, but why is it in the shape of a long bar? Will the plane take this shape even if the flight headlights are turned on in the distance at night?
 
So the key point now is, suppose it's a distant flight, but why is it in the shape of a long bar? Will the plane take this shape even if the flight headlights are turned on in the distance at night?
Why? Because the camera is taking long exposures, and the aircraft is a fast-moving object. You can see the city lights leaving streaks as well, due to the long exposure time.
 
I've added support for ground image overlays. You can drag in a KMZ with one in, or a GeoTIFF. Editing is in the works (but not yet working)

With this, there's a reasonable match as per @Trailblazer. Lining things up suggests it's on the ground.
https://www.metabunk.org/sitrec/?custom=https://sitrec.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/1/with night street overlay/20260118_000844.js


Moving a building around until it ended up in the right spot gave us a lonely set of buildings in the middle of nowhere.

2026-01-17_16-14-19.jpg

But with some uncertainty, and not far from the buildings identified earlier.
2026-01-17_16-18-08.jpg


But I don't think it's the plane. Besides it not being in the sky, that's not motion blur.
 
Last edited:
In the meantime let's go back to this frame.
no_reflection.jpg


I'm open to the idea that I completely misinterpreted this photo. After all, I'm experienced in film photography, but lacking an education in digital photography. And I don't even own a smartphone and have never used one.

But in that case I'd like a detailed explanation of some things. I'm not arguing that the mystery object is the Moon.

Is that bright blob at the top right of the frame in the right position to be the Moon? Let's look at some evidence.

- The video starts with this view (above) and then the camera zooms in. (I'm assuming a digital zoom?) This is a wide angle view. The right edge of the window frame (from the viewpoint of the guy with the phone) is in focus, but much more important is the apparent size of the window frame and and the port engine.

Compare to this frame from a video that was clearly shot with a short focal length lens.
Dog Window 102.png


Original video. Clearly a wide angle lens in use.



The dog is looking out a window on the right side of the plane and it's the starboard engine in view, but no matter. Just compare the apparent size of the engine in both frames. And the proportions of the window frame. Not exactly the same but, pretty similar.
no_reflection.jpg
Dog Window 102.png


Besides all that, the landscape looks like a landscape in a wide angle view.

So how many degrees would there be in this vertical frame from top to bottom? About 70? The Moon was 18 degrees above the horizon at that time and place. So could the this blob be 18 degrees above he horizon. Thinking it through now... Yes it could be. Score one for StarFlint. And one against me.

Still... establishing that this is a wide angle shot should be helpful if a cluster of ground lights is ever really found that's a good candidate for the Mystery Object. The absolute size and brightness should match the apparent size and apparent brightness in the witness images; taking into account the distance from the witness and atmospheric extinction.


Here's some things I don't understand:

-The color temperature. As has been pointed out the color temperature of Moonlight is ~4100–4500 K. Not taking into account that Raleigh scattering shifts it slightly toward blue (I don't know how much) and atmospheric extinction shifts the color temperature down according to conditions at the time. A Moon 18 degrees above the horizon, above a city, on a misty night, in China where it's still common for households to have coal burning stoves and furnaces, should be fairly yellow. Significantly more red than 4100 K. Daylight balanced film would make it look pretty yellow/orange.

I'm aware that digital cameras might adjust color temperatures depending on the overall lighting of the scene. Something about automatic white balance. (I don't know any details about how it really works.) And I've seen digital photos of the Moon which look much too blue.

But if the balance was shifted that much to the blue... wouldn't the rest of the scene also have a bluish cast? The Moon here looks like the Sun at the meridian, which has a color temp of ~5800 K.

I see no indication that the color temperature of the city lights has been shifted that dramatically toward blue. Can the automatic white balance single out a single object and leave the rest of the landscape alone?

Or was the Moon somehow not tinged yellow by atmospheric extinction, but shining brightly in a completely clear sky? Or am I misjudging the color temperature of the city lights?

And if the automatic exposure was tricked into vastly overexposing the Moon... why aren't the city lights also overexposed? I promise that daylight balanced film would not show such an overexposed Moon but well exposed city lights. The Moon isn't that much more bright than city lights. A bright full Moon (not dimmed by atmospheric extinction) would be several stops overexposed if the city lights were well exposed like this. But the Moon seems to be something like... I don't know how many stops overexposed in this image. A lot. Too many.

I'm open to believing that this is weird quirk is possible in digital photography, but can someone explain why?


-My idea was that the blob in the upper right corner of the frame might be the illuminating LED on the phone itself. These LEDs, I assume, have the color temperature of Sunlight to make illuminated scenes look natural. But it might be something else. An overhead reading lamp is a prime suspect. In that case the second dimmer/smaller blob might not be an internal reflection. It might be a second reading lamp which is angled differently and not shining so directly at the window.

-Showing me other videos on Tik Tok which have blue white blobs in the airplane window doesn't convince me. Couldn't that mean that other naive photographers were making the same mistake? Never underestimate the thoughtless incompetence of naive photographers. Back in the days of film people routinely tried to take snapshots out of a window at night... with a flashbulb. What you got was a blob of light. (There was a UFO case in which the witness did just that, but I can't remember which one it was.) In the days of film it was common to see flashbulbs/units going off all over a stadium during night games.

Or those cited photos might really be of the Moon with the color balance shifted toward blue. And the Moon also vastly overexposed because the automatic exposure has been tricked by the overall lighting conditions. Don't know.

-Just eyeballing the mystery light, it seemed to me, with the ambiguity of just where the horizon actually is, that it might be 18 degrees above the horizon.

It probably isn't. But it seemed reasonable. That was a notion without applying any measurement. And done in a hurry. Is that blob the Moon 18 degrees above the horizon? Maybe. Or maybe the Moon is hidden by clouds, or slightly out of frame. Not too important just now.



More importantly just now, it doesn't follow that if the blob is actually the Moon, the mystery object can't be a reflection in the window.


We know that the phone was not flush against the window. The camera, as has been pointed out, is looking out at a slant. I could believe that the left edge of the phone was put up against the surface of the window for stability... with the guy's right hand holding the phone. Or it might be that the guy's left hand was up against a solid surface with the phone in that hand. The solid surface may be the surface of the window, or the window frame, or the wall of the cabin near the window frame.

But looking at this again, I'm skeptical that even this is true. How do you get the window frame in the shot like this with the camera up against the window at whatever angle?
no_reflection.jpg





-Given the quirkiness of the the optics of airline windows which are made of acrylic plastic and prone to cause diffraction effects

-Given that the phone camera lens was not flush against the surface of the window, but there was at least some gap between the lens and the window pane surface

-And given that even if the lens was flush against the surface of the window, there was another external pane with a gap that might be inches wide, and a reflection in that outside pane could be visible

I don't think we can rule out the idea that this mystery object may be a reflection of a light inside the airliner.

Possibly a reflection of a diffraction streak caused by the big light in the upper corner, whether the Moon or the illuminating LED or an overhead reading lamp. I think that unlikely.

More likely a reflection of an entirely different light source.

The witness's protestation that he would recognize a reflection is not convincing to me. Was that a spontaneous comment, or in reaction to someone's suggestion that it was a reflection?

If the former: When a UFO witness spontaneously says, "It's not 'X'," there's a 95% chance it's X.

If the latter, it could be an ad hoc excuse.

It seems to me that a reflection is entirely possible, and is an entirely adequate explanation. Just another UFO that turns out to be a reflection in a window.
 
Last edited:
I can't tell if you're saying that the green line intersects with anything that might be the Mystery Object, or whether the green line intersects with a group of isolated ground lights that are of help with calibrating the witness images to that Shutterstock nighttime aerial view.

Or saying something else?
 
Last edited:
Just found this video of Urumqi streetlights by night

https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-1106162223-urumqi-china-aerial-view-night-top-on?dd_referrer=https://www.google.com/

In this orientation the line to the top is the highway where the bridge is. The image overlay.kml should open it in google earth
View attachment 87864
"In this orientation the line to the top is the highway where the bridge is. The image overlay.kml should open it in google earth."

To the... ? This is ambiguous.

The line at the top of the frame? Which one?

The line stretching toward (pointing toward) the top of the frame? Which one?

Does the top even refer to the top of the frame? Or what?

A label on the photo might be better.

Is this just another exercise in matching the ground lights in the witness images to features visible in another source? The nighttime aerial image in this case...

Is this really getting any closer to finding the presumed cluster of ground lights? It seems that fine tuning the direction to the Mystery Object isn't all that helpful. The general direction to the Mystery Object has already been pretty well established hasn't it? But there's no good candidate within the indicated zone visible on a map of the region. Or do you have a good candidate?
 
Last edited:
I can't tell if you're saying that the green line intersects with anything that might be the Mystery Object, or whether the green line intersects with a group of isolated ground lights that are of help with calibrating the witness images to that Shutterstock nighttime aerial view.

Or saying something else?
The line is just a measurement arrow that points at the buildings that are in the same place in the recreation as the UFO is in the video. It passes close to the other buildings.

We have a 3D recreation of the path of the plane, and can match lights on the ground, giving a reasonable 3D recreation of the scene. The bright white light is indeed in the right place to be the Moon.

https://www.metabunk.org/sitrec/?cu...zonaws.com/1/Moon position/20260118_093821.js
2026-01-18_01-41-04.jpg


The match with the city lights is a bit fiddly, as the overlay is an older image from directly overhead, so show both more and less of the current city lights. But this again seems to show the UFO light is on the ground.
 
Last edited:
Can you confirm the coords of that white building? In sitrec i get 43.968829, 88.060440 which in GoogleMaps gives this aerial view, which coincidentally again is right beside a ski- slope.

1768731842757.png


Edit - ha ha @Mick West you found it too! :D
 
The line is just a measurement arrow that points at the buildings that are in the same place in the recreation as the UFO is in the video. It passes close to the other buildings.

We have a 3D recreation of the path of the plane, and can match lights on the ground, giving a reasonable 3D recreation of the scene. The bright white light is indeed in the right place to be the Moon.
Yes, already granted.

I just thought of something. Although the blown out image is useless, the internal reflection of the Moon in the double paned window should be close to the true apparent size of the Moon. It was just past full and was 98% illuminated. The non-blown out reflection should therefore be about 1/2 degree in apparent diameter. Although that's not guaranteed as there may be glare and diffraction effects.

At any rate it might be useful in determining the apparent diameter of the Mystery Object.
 
Last edited:
Yes, already granted.

I just thought of something. Although the blown out image is useless, the internal reflection of the Moon in the double paned window should be close to the true apparent size of the Moon. It was just past full and was 98% illuminated. The non-blown out reflection should therefore be about 1/2 degree in apparent diameter. Although that's not guaranteed as there may be glare and diffraction effects.

At any rate it might be useful in determining the apparent diameter of the Mystery Object.
We already have the angular size from the video match (a reasonable match for the ski area). And the reflection is blown out as well. Here's the matching moon from Sitrec

2026-01-18_03-12-43.jpg
 
Well, I'm certainly convinced. Well done Starflint, and everyone else involved.

Ski Slope A would seem to be the culprit.
Ski Slope A.png

Ski Slopes 101.png


Both ski slopes run across the witness's line of sight. Which fits the Mystery Object's appearance - a line of light. The Mystery Object even matches the tilt of Ski Slope A. Higher on the right side.

It's about 34 miles from the witness. No ridge or mountain along the witness's line of sight is high enough to block Ski slope A from the witness in the airliner, although I think B would be hidden or at least mostly hidden. Both slopes would certainly be hidden from anyone in the City at street level.

Someone should probably check with an Earth curvature calculator, preemptively against objections from Pro-Bunkers.


Map 101.png



The yellow line represents the witness's line of sight. Ski slope A crosses it like a Capital T.
Map 102.png


The same map with north up, as God intended.
Map 103.png


The only thing that bothers me is the apparent brightness.
 
Last edited:
Ski slopes at night can be extremely bright, as they are usually very well lit and as @Mendel said, snow is very reflective. I think that many people who haven't spent much time in areas wintery enough for ski slopes, might not appreciate how bright well illuminated snow can be.

Here's a pic (source is here) of a slope above the town of Narvik in Norway, from what looks like a few kilometers away. Even at dusk, it's pretty bright.
narvik-ski-at-night.jpg


Additionally, if a slope has had artificially produced snow spread on it (quite common early/late in the snow season), then the surrounding ground would be far less reflective that the ski slope, making the effect of moonlight on the slope that much greater than on the land around it.
 
so...you guys can determine all this (and change the title) with old overlays and distorted maps, but you cant "prove" the Klein ufo when you have on the ground, real life proof of the angle he was looking? what's up with that?
 
Weird coincidence that the incoming plane happened to be so close at the exact time in question!
I suspect the plane would be visible in the video if A) it were of a better quality. B) It wasn't so cloudy. Perhaps an original video might emerge.

This was a fun dance with LIZ.
 
It would be interesting to know whether that ski area is regularly illuminated at night or if there was some kind of event going on.
What would be really perfect is a video from another evening flight on the same route, but that would take some pretty dedicated debunking as I doubt Urumqi is too close to anyone posting on Metabunk! (It's a name I remember from my childhood Guinness Book of Records as being the most distant city on Earth from the ocean).
 
It would be interesting to know whether that ski area is regularly illuminated at night or if there was some kind of event going on.
1768837847423.jpeg

Night skiing is one of their regular fee-based services, and I found an advertisement posted by the Tianshan Tianchi Ski Resort on their official Xiaohongshu account on January 3rd this year, which stated: "Night skiing ticket prices from January 4th to January 22nd, 2026: Magic Carpet 38 RMB, Cable Car 58 RMB." Moreover, no notifications about maintenance or closures for night skiing on January 4th were found across various platforms, and their night skiing hours are from 19:30 to 22:30. Therefore, it can be reasonably confirmed that around 21:45 on January 4th, the ski resort's night session was operating normally.
 
View attachment 87987
Night skiing is one of their regular fee-based services, and I found an advertisement posted by the Tianshan Tianchi Ski Resort on their official Xiaohongshu account on January 3rd this year, which stated: "Night skiing ticket prices from January 4th to January 22nd, 2026: Magic Carpet 38 RMB, Cable Car 58 RMB." Moreover, no notifications about maintenance or closures for night skiing on January 4th were found across various platforms, and their night skiing hours are from 19:30 to 22:30. Therefore, it can be reasonably confirmed that around 21:45 on January 4th, the ski resort's night session was operating normally.
if you can read and write in chinese, perhaps you can write them and ask if they would be so kind as to provide you a photo of their nighttime slopes lit up. i would think it cool if someone filmed my lights from a plane (and free advertising) so i'd be happy to help.
 
As an ex pilot I can testify that ground lights can be seen from a considerable distance. I could see our home base airport at night 40 miles out of it was CAVOK just beyond the mountains.
It needn't be all that bright. In the dry clear air of New Mexico, drivers could see the traffic lights turn red to green on post (WSMR) from many miles away.
 
My unease with the apparent brightness is not in regard to the absolute brightness of the ski slope. It's what's in the air and atmospheric extinction.

The ground lights are obscured by what looks like fog. Since the distant lights appear just above this mist, it would have to be a very localized, fog for these 34 mile distant lights not to be obscured or very dimmed.

Most likely, that is isn't a simple fog, but smog. Largely smoke from burning coal.

And since the city is in a basin surrounded by mountains, there's likely to be a low inversion layer. Putting that all together the "mist" is probably a localized smog, and largely coal smoke made up of small particulates and sulphur dioxide. Stuff that dims light.

That's also why the Moon is also so bright. The air is dry and clear in most of the region, outside of that localized area of heavy smog.

The plane must have been above the top of the inversion layer. If the plane had been below the top of the inversion layer the lights of the ski slope may not have been visible. And the Moon would have been dimmed and had a yellow cast.

And just maybe... the witness saw the previously obscured ski slope lights pop into view when the plane got above the inversion layer. Which would increase the strangeness factor.



https://www.chinahighlights.com/urumqi/weather/january.htm?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Weather: January is the coldest month and very dry in Urumqi. It is bitterly cold, so not recommended for touring. The average daily high temperature is -8°C (18 °F), and it gets much colder at night and with windchill!

Precipitation isn't a problem, since there is only about 8 mm (1/3 inch) of snow that falls lightly on 10 days of the month.

Clothing: All hotels and restaurants in Urumqi have central heating. Dress in layers. Have a coat, long winter underwear, and gloves for being out at night.

Pollution: The Air Quality Index has been recorded as 296 in January, the most polluted month, so it can be "very unhealthy"! If you have any sensitivity to pollution, avoid coming in this month. Even healthy people will be noticeably affected.

Urumqi has been cited as the most polluted city in the world, but it is not that bad all year round. Pollution reduces greatly outside the winter months, and outside the city.
 
Last edited:
And just maybe... the witness saw the previously obscured ski slope lights pop into view when the plane got above the inversion layer. Which would increase the strangeness factor.
If that seems a long shot to anybody, recall that if it had NOT been visible, there would not be a video of it not being there! The moments when something mundane looks strange generate UFO videos, the moments where they can't be seen do not, nor do the moments when they look like the normal stuff that they are. The moments captured in videos that seem to show a UFO are skewed towards the unusual views or conditions where the mundane looks strange!
 
Back
Top