Discussion in 'Skydentify - What is that Thing in the Sky?' started by Mick West, Mar 17, 2014.
Looks just like one of these:
Would it appear so perfectly horizontal though, with no apparent sag or tilt? It could be a long exposure video artifact?
its cranking too : )
Several in the images above look perfectly straight.
Well okay then.
Hello, I'm an italian blogger and indipendent UFO researcher. This is my first post.
It's not a solar ballon, it's just CGI from O7TV youtube channel produced by hoaxers Kaschuba brothers from Germany (a.k.a. xxxdonutzxxx, UFObook, UFOfilesTV, crazybreakingnews, 8118th, SecretScienceTV, 7th Area).
You can watch other CGI video from these channels, for example:
Thanks. It's a pretty subtle hoax compared to the others (like live dragons).
they seem to stay pretty horizontal once up.
only a few secs of flight on this one. (so scroll to like 1 min. )
Another disproof that we are behind these accounts by hoaxers Kaschuba, is the description given for several their clips in which is shown a “pseudo agency” that care their interests:
Audio Video Agency of Color World.
In fact, we can often read:
If you like to use videos for uploads or commercial use please contact "email@example.com."
That's the information released by some Kaschuba's accounts:
That's an old screenshot that clearly shows Kaschuba's source:
Yeah but the ones that took off perfectly straight were on a diagonal. I find it hard to believe that these types of balloons could move horizontally without showing sag on either side. If you notice the ones that went up horizontally showed a bowe, and both sides were lower than the center point of the balloon. Could the above video footage be a flock of birds flying in unisom? I don't think one of these balloons could fly straight and for that long across the horizon without bobbing or bowing. And that image is far away, does anyone have a best estimate to how large that "balloon" would be based on how far away the video was shot. That object looks like it would be much much larger than any of the balloons in the images based on its distance away. But I could be wrong.
I'm bumping this thread although I know it's been a month since it was posted because I have a few things to add to the subject for completeness sake. I appreciate it's an old thread about a subject that's as easy to debunk as shooting fish in a barrel, but I've seen it posted on web forums I've been involved with so I thought I'd post the following.
The video footage that has clearly been debunked in this thread has been attached to a story about a "Ukrainian Sky Dreadnought" which is supposedly a 3000ft long USAF craft patrolling the skies in Ukraine due to the recent political situation.
I'm not going to address the video footage (as it appears to have been nicely debunked already) but intend to debunk a very stupid "news" story that has arisen surrounding the video footage that has been presented as a genuine news story on various websites. As near as I can tell, the origin for this story that originated from the debunked video footage is an "article" from the Turner News Network with the following URL - http://turnerradionetwork.com/news/353-pat
That since taken down article has since been screen-grabbed and put into a beforeitsnews.com article viewable here - http://beforeitsnews.com/war-and-co...s-military-sky-dreadnought-video-2451008.html - which seems to be nothing more than the original article screengrabbed and put into YouTube format.
As far as I can tell, there was a genuine article (as far as articles on the Turner News Network website can be described as *genuine*) that has been deleted for some reason and we're all looking at screen grabs and YouTubeified versions of that. Make of that what you will.
The article came up on another forum where it took about 5 minutes to throughly debunk for the following simple reasons:
A critical minded skeptical reading of the article in question will immediately throw up red flags, but apart from that, there's 3 photos presented in the video claiming to be of the construction, assembly, etc. of the "Sky Dreadnought". A few minutes of Google Reverse Image Search however reveal the following:
A photo in the article that is described as "one of dozens of exterior hull sections being moved into position for assembly" turns out to be merely a photo ripped form NASA's website of the Space Shuttle External Tank being assembled.
Wikipedia photo here: https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/b7a6cb16f2f37d5057c26f3eec6f265b.jpg
Another photo was claimed to be a picture of taken during assembly of the Sky Dreadnought is just a photo ripped from the website of a martime engineering company - http://www.km.kongsberg.com/ks/web/...1F2AE344159FCDCDC1257B09002FF735?OpenDocument
I hope those links work and are either automatically embededded or clickable but they should illustrate the bunk this story has been built around.
Hey is that similar to what this is?
The object is standing upright in this video though... @Mick West can these be Solar Tube like objects too? Maybe more CG?
Perhaps same techniques were used in this video? Soomething seems weird about the pixilation... @ufoofinterest
; ) the kids sound utterly intrigued.
^ yeah right? Is it also a solar balloon? They usually float horizontally though so it's got confused haha.
no idea. looks like a kids regular party balloon. funnel a bit of sand in the bottom. or the tie itself could keep it upright. let it go. start filming. by the time it gets high enough to make the filming look cool the kids are bored.
but I'm a pessimist. maybe it is an alien timecapsule.
No CGI, it's a real solar balloon.
Ah ok that's what I was thinking... How about in this one I also posted. Can't tell what it is...
that reminds me of something I saw once. my goddaughter and I were watching the kids play and she kept swatting this teeny tiny piece of fluff away, finally she says all super calm...'theres a little creature checking me out' lol and she wasn't kidding. it was hovering in front of her face checking her out and kept coming back (the wind kept taking it) as we gestured towards it. a teeny tiny fluffy white seemingly cognizant creature with cutest little face. (it was some kind a bug) tried looking up what it was but never found it. acted and moved just like a fairy would, very cool.
I agree with @deirdre: looks like a kids regular party balloon. A bad autofocus can determine an irregular shape.
Hmmm ok so a possible focus effect on another object? perhaps a bug? @Mick West if you don't mind me asking could this be a focus effect like you have previously discussed? It's just fascinating to look at.
. What could cause this effect at 45 seconds. Looks like its a fisheye type of lens. The object passes behind a branch or something at 29 seconds, so its not an object in the forefront thats out of focus. I also think a party ballon with the highly reflective metallic look could easily be the culprit here. There are many "UFO" sightings with similar observations that turn out to be nothing more than a B-Day balloon.
You can see it's going out of focus, creating the pretty animated patterns. I would say this is a typical white light in the sky such as from an aircraft (if it's moving) or an evening star if it's stationary. Alternatively, it could be reflected sunlight which appears on the right of other nearby objects in view.
I don't think its a bug, but who knows. I think its just a thingabob blowing in the wind. (or a fairy )
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I concur, a balloon.
Can you explain the point of this post?
It's here for background information about AWC, & as a starter for further research.
I'll delete it if you want.
I want to provide a much more reliable whois then you have posted. The person who runs this Kaschuba empire of UFO deception is called Nico Kaschuba. He originates out of Reutlingen, Germany. Him and his brother are responsible for the majority of this mess of hoaxes and deceptive videos as they hide behind the veil of a multitude of YouTube channels and cross-posting of fake videos. Here is some empirical proof of their industrial scale UFO hoaxing:
The channels him and his brother have created are as follows:
Youtube UFO Channels:
O7TV This channel is not available.
7thArea This channel is not available.
hoaxkillers Dead and buried (tried to impersonate the REAL thehoaxkiller.com that exposed them)
KaschubaTV This channel is not available.
NKaschuba This channel is not available.
Probable Sock Accounts:
TheGreyAliens This channel is not available.
DirtyInternet This channel is not available.
MavelTV This channel is not available.
globalhappening Dead and buried
LaMusicaELaMiaVita89 This channel is not available.
Funny how they keep becoming unavailable isn't it?
Here is a more robust whois lookup and I am sure if your clever enough you can find the building they live in using Google maps or MapQuest or even send them a nice email saying thanks for all the lies you have perpetrated onto the world. Maybe he will thank you?
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