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  1. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked: Executive Order 13575 - Establishment of the White House Rural Council

    ...have distanced themselves from the UN (but how could they?) and that they should have worked closer with us. The new strategy to implement Agenda 21 has been re-labeled "Local Agenda 21" (LA21). That is most likely what they are doing today with ICLEI, which was formed in 1995 just after the...
  2. Mick West

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    "Unethical and/or immoral" are somewhat subjective. But what about Agenda 21 do you consider to be unethical, and/or immoral? Or do you think there's a hidden motive? Really you could say ANYTHING has a hidden motive. That's why I try to focus on actual evidence.
  3. Mick West

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    ...who are also opposed to any environmental restrictions. How do you come to that conclusion? I don't see why you'd say the UN thinks of the West as a bigger problem than China? Agenda 21 is a suggested agenda for ALL countries. The UN is quite active in on Cinese environmental issues. [/COLOR]
  4. Steve

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    Apparently the Republican Nation Committee doesn't agree with your assessment Mick: http://www.republicanassemblies.org/rnc-adopts-resolution-exposing-agenda-21/ This could turn into a major political mistake once the debates start between Obama and whoever is nominated by the Republicans. It...
  5. TWCobra

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    ...Believes cloud seeding is chemtrails., Carnicom is an expert, Agenda 21, NWO and Michael Murphy is an authoritative source. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-air-force-whistle-blower.1066/#post-24786 First mention of being demonized and the reason for that...
  6. Cairenn

    Depopulation of the Gulf coast

    ...glaring flaws would be swept under the “hurricane” carpet. An almost perfect plan which unfortunately did not get off the staring track as we had seen. Otherwise, Agenda 21 and FEMA (Forceful Extermination of Millions of Americans) would have been in full force by now. Divine Intervention?"
  7. Mick West

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    Pics or it didn't happen! But seriously, Agenda 21 is one of those conspiracy theories that's rather intangible. The debunking is unfortunately going to mostly consist of pointing out that there's no evidence to support the theory. I can't prove that Agenda 21 is not a communist conspiracy...
  8. George B

    Debunked: Executive Order 13575 - Establishment of the White House Rural Council

    That is the whole thing in a nut shell . . . Individual property rights versus the public good or need . . . the difference I believe is from what level comes the strategy (property confiscation) and for what good or need are the property rights restricted . . . we may see the need for an...
  9. Mick West

    Debunked: Executive Order 13575 - Establishment of the White House Rural Council

    ...a little, but it not like if the council did not exist them there would be no corruption in those areas. And a bit of graft is very different from a covert plot to implement agenda 21. It's a bit different from any type of decades-long plot. It's just business as usual. No conspiracy required.
  10. Belfrey

    Debunked: "Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism"

    As I said, I did not watch the whole video. I watched enough to see that she was just making claims, not presenting evidence. I've sat through 1.5-hour conspiracy videos before because someone said "that's where you'll find the evidence" (for chemtrails, etc.), only to be disappointed. That's...
  11. Boodles

    Alex Jones- Debunked!

    Wow, so much to go on there. I adore number 20. Fantastic and fascinating idea. Someone should implement it (yes, I know it's roots). Where I differ from most people, I suppose, is I agree with much of his emphasis; there is much truth there, in my opinion, and I haven't got to that stage of...
  12. Steve

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    The women who has been pushing this conspiracy (Cassandra Anderson) works for G. Edward Griffin and has produced a few videos along with writing many articles on this subject. Here is one she made with Paul Wittenberg(The Great Culling) :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsLD7W-l_FM This is Michael...
  13. MikeC

    Overpopulation

    ...enough energy, and certainly enough food at he moment - that is why I do not think 7 billion is an unsustainable population. Even Agenda 21 does nto say 7 billion is unsustainable. Logistics are not always less expensive if distributing to a smaller area - logistics are cheaper when less...
  14. muttkat

    Debunked: Executive Order 13575 - Establishment of the White House Rural Council

    It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class — involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, ownership of motor vehicles and small electrical appliances, home and work-place air...
  15. muttkat

    Debunked: "Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism"

    ...global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect." Quote from the UN's Own "Agenda 21": "Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever...
  16. MikeC

    Debunked: Executive Order 13575 - Establishment of the White House Rural Council

    A quote from, that page: In fact, many of the agencies, departments and organizations listed as Council members are in fact creations of the UN; created for no other purpose than to give the United Nations direct access to the United States. So what are the members of the council - from...
  17. Steve

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    The United States put out its own assessment in response to Agenda 21 under the Clinton administration back in the late 90s: http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/usa/eco.htm It's just a little alarming to me that something that's obviously conspiracy bunk is now making inroads and...
  18. Mick West

    Debunked: Agenda 21, ICLEI, Sovereignty, UN, Depopulation

    ...the magnitude of the downward pressure on global oil prices of increase US production and distribution, yet I don't think that "Agenda 21 usurps sovereignty, property rights, economic liberty, and basically hands over power, resources and land to unelected elitists" I think the former...
  19. Mick West

    Conspiracy Theory Poll Results Shows Party/Age/Race Splits on Chemtrails, etc.

    From Public Policy Polling: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/04/conspiracy-theory-poll-results-.html http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf Raleigh, N.C. – PPP’s latest national poll finds the American public differing along...
  20. Mick West

    Debunked: OverpopulationIsAMyth.com (Overpopulation is a Myth, Population Research Institute)

    In a way that site is correct, overpopulation is not "the" problem, poverty is the problem. There's also enough arable land to feed five times the current population. And the world population will probably level off in 50 years. However it's really being a little disingenuous. Overpopulation...
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