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  1. Jay Reynolds

    Will chemtrails or covert geoengineering show up in varves, ice cores, or tree rings?

    SD, I can't understand why you still don't get it. The idea of testing for contamination of the environment the way they did with rainwater wasn't fundamentally flawed. They tested fairly properly, even if none of the tests were documented, had no standardization, and they only tested for...
  2. SeriouslyDebatable

    Will chemtrails or covert geoengineering show up in varves, ice cores, or tree rings?

    Much like data in collecting rainwater is given, they list the container material used to collect the rain, the dates the rain was collected, the location, etc. so that people can either repeat the test and see if they get the same results, or be able to identify a source of contamination or...
  3. Jay Reynolds

    How did pH get involved with chemtrails?

    ...So, when tracked back to it's origins, the idea that chemtrails contain barium and that the pH of rainwater has changed as a result leads back to the same person, A.C. Griffith: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/210-How-did-barium-get-into-chemtrails
  4. Mick West

    Chemical Composition of Rain and Snow - Aluminum, Barium, etc.

    ...days"? Test done in Hawaii by Dr. Lorrin Pang show no correlation between perceived "Chemtrailing" and the levels of aluminum in rainwater. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/337-Debunked-Geoengineering-over-Maui-Hawaii 3 May 2011 Chem trails analysis of data. The working hypothesis is...
  5. Mick West

    UK chemtrails conference,December,London

    ...Download and read the DIRECTIVE To Ban Geoengineering from Our Skies - http://tinyurl.com/THE-DIRECTIVE Order Rainwater Testing Kits here - http://tinyurl.com/RainwaterTestKit Event Organiser - Mona Norman London Event link -...
  6. Mick West

    Debunked: Chemtrail "Chembows" [Solar Halos]

    ...This is caused by chemtrails/geoengineering this is not natural. Barium salts could easily mimic ice crystals,what do we find in our rainwater.... Aluminium, Barium, Strontium, arsenic & many other metals, just a coincidence??? There's two equally important things you need to know about this...
  7. Danny55

    "Chemtrails " . Follow the money

    http://www.chemtrailsproject.com/ For $49 you can get a container and instructions to sample rainwater, then send it away for "testing" to see what it contains, The results are plotted on a map of the USA to show what the chemtrail spraying produces, and its location. No actual documents are...
  8. Tim TheToolman Coles

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    These test have already been done many times in Atmospheric research. Including persistent contrails that lasted for hours just to examine the size and make up of the molecules. They are freely available on the internet and their results are fully explained in many scientific papers. So read...
  9. Danny55

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    From FB Chemtrails Project New Rainwater Results - from St. George, Utah: Aluminum = ND Barium = 7 ug/l Strontium = 21 ug/l *Notes: Once again we find a sample with no aluminum but strontium is present. Out of the last 5-6 samples we have tested the case has been the same, heavy...
  10. Mick West

    Posting Guidelines

    ...i.e. individual points that are used to back up a broader theory. For example, the fact that high levels of aluminum are sometimes found in rainwater is used as evidence for the "chemtrails" theory. Claims of evidence can be debunked in one of two main ways Demonstrating that the evidence...
  11. SeriouslyDebatable

    Will chemtrails or covert geoengineering show up in varves, ice cores, or tree rings?

    ...you're out" law applies to everything, not just fraud. Only on those specific tests which are not flawed would this be the case, otherwise both types of testing are not required... Which tests do you refer to? Which tests are not fundamentally flawed? I am talking about the rainwater tests...
  12. Des O

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    ...they develop a proper comparison criteria and sampling methodology. If I were them, I would find a scientific article that tests metals in rainwater (particulate and dissolved) and follow their sampling methodology as closely as possible. That 1967 Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences paper...
  13. Mick West

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    They did actually answer the questions about filters, kind of: But I'd like to see the actual instructions. It's also hard to know how well people follow the instructions.
  14. Des O

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    ...before sending it to the lab. If the sample is not filtered, the metals concentration such as aluminum can increase x100. The fallacy is that they then compare these unfiltered results (total metals = dissolved + particulate_ to legitimate scientific findings of only dissolved metals in...
  15. Des O

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    More from Chemtrails Project Just curious if they actually ran an analysis for Aluminum. No way to know for sure without a lab report. Those are some really clean rain water samples though.
  16. Noble1965

    Will chemtrails or covert geoengineering show up in varves, ice cores, or tree rings?

    Is there any evidence that anything we can see or can't see is being released from airplanes on a global scale as part of some conspiracy?! I can say the same thing ("there are things you cannot see that still concern you") about drinking water, vegetables, popcorn..whatever. The fact remains...
  17. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked- Dane Wigington's 10 "bullet" points regarding geoengineering

    Unregistered, Did you find the information above to conflict with what Dane Wigington has been claiming? Isn't it interesting that he doesn't want to discuss the matter? Dane knows all about the information I put forward above. If it is news to you, it is Dane Wigington's fault, certainly not...
  18. Belfrey

    Accuracy of Radiosonde humidity soundings for contrail prediction

    ...literature certainly does falsify the claim (made by Saive and others) that there should be absolutely no Al, Ba, or Sr in ordinary rainwater - a claim that I've never seen the believers try to support with evidence or reliable sources. Interestingly, Saive has recently started to admit that...
  19. Jay Reynolds

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    ...of their lab reports at all? Do they keep a running average of their results? What do they say that they consider as a normal range in rainwater for Al, Ba, and Sr? What do they base the above criterion on? I think they are getting their advice from Francis Mangels, who has been made...
  20. Danny55

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    Results fresh in on Chemtrails Project Chemtrails Project Rainwater Results in from Spokane, WA: Strontium: 24 ug/l Barium: 23 ug/l Aluminum: ND **More of the same with these results; the past 2 months have all been heavy strontium with ND for aluminum. It has us evaluating the agenda...
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