1. Critical Thinker

    Critical Thinker Senior Member

    Across the World Russia has sought to destabilize non-allied governments by using bots, trolls, misinformation from their state controlled media (RT & Sputnik). One of the primary tools they have used has been propaganda to create division, distrust and smear campaigns. In another thread I sought to explore the question "Are the conspiracy promoters radicalizing people?", based on what has been exposed by investigators and journalists it appears that they are doing so intentionally and methodically.


    From NBCNews: Russian troll accounts purged by Twitter pushed Qanon and other conspiracy theories

    From BBC: Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord

     
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  2. Critical Thinker

    Critical Thinker Senior Member

    From The American Council on Science and Health: How Organic Consumers Association Colludes With Russian Trolls

     
  3. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    colludes?
     
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  4. Mendel

    Mendel Member

    in the same sense that president Trump colludes with Fox News.
    Calling "Getting interviewed by a news station, and sharing some of their news items publicly" collusion has the potential to confuse an audience about what the word "collusion" actually means. There is no conspiracy, just a propaganda war.
     
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  5. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    Their motto is (allegedly) "Science. Not hype." :)
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  6. JohnJones

    JohnJones Member

    A truther friend of mine in the UK recently wrote to me, excitedly quoting an article in an on-line periodical called "The offGuardian". The article was an enthusiastic review of a truther book, "9/11 Unmasked: An International Review Panel Investigation". Here's the article; note that all the points it makes have been convincingly debunked in various Metabunk threads.

    https://off-guardian.org/2018/09/10/the-fakest-fake-news-the-u-s-governments-9-11-conspiracy-theory/

    Going to the "offGuardian" website, I noticed that it was designed to resemble the website for "The Guardian", a reputable UK newspaper popular with liberals. For example, it uses the same distinctive typeface. In its "About Us" section, it claims to have been founded by liberals and socialists who became disillusioned with the Guardian.

    Reading a few of the offGuardian's other pieces, it consistently takes a pro-Russia stance. This is particularly noticeable in its coverage of Syria, Libya and Ukraine. This rather suggests that it is a Russian mouthpiece.

    The striking thing is that, as Critical Thinker observed in his initial post, the offGuardian's writers do not limit themselves to advocating pro-Russia political positions, but promote truther and anti-vaccination viewpoints.
     
  7. Agent K

    Agent K Active Member

    That's funny. ACSH is one of those industry front groups that borrows from the tobacco industry's playbook. They used to yell "junk science" and "chemophobia", and now they're yelling "Russian collusion," or at least their blogger Alex Berezow is. I'm guessing that he hates Russia because he's Polish, but I wonder how it'll play out with his libertarian and right-wing readers.
     
  8. Critical Thinker

    Critical Thinker Senior Member

    Russian's weaponization of conspiracy theories for consumption in the US is not a new phenomenon.

    From The NYTimes:Fingerprints of Russian Disinformation: From AIDS to Fake News

     
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  9. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    This thread reads like a "Before it's News" homepage.
     
  10. Agent K

    Agent K Active Member

    I'm not familiar with Before it's News, but at first glance it looks like one of those fake news sites that helps Russia spread conspiracy theories.

    You deleted my main point that conspiracy theories can be weaponized. Skeptics like Mick West and Michael Shermer talk about the psychology of conspiracy theories, like paranoia and "agenticity", but this doesn't explain why many conspiracy theorists promote anti-America/anti-West conspiracy theories but deny anti-Russia ones.
     
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  11. Agent K

    Agent K Active Member

    That's right, and even before the Soviet Union existed, the Russian Empire's secret police, the Okhrana, fabricated The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and a "White Russian" monarchist immigrant brought it to the U.S.
    But that's not all. The KGB distributed The Protocols of the Elders of Zion around the Muslim world, according to a Romanian defector.
     
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  12. deirdre

    deirdre Moderator Staff Member

    Exactly. This thread and the quotes being used make this thread sound like a CIA propaganda campaign against Russia. Or at least it sounds like Metabunk is a "useful idiot" in the disinformation campaign.


    For example an above blurb says:
    But the Baltimore Sun in 1992 says
    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1992-02-21-1992052036-story.html


    And this paper
    "Disinformation squared: Was the HIV-from-Fort-Detrick myth a Stasi success?"
    says
    https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...2F6B8FA780208DFAC39DC57A03E#fndtn-information


    Now, obviously i'm not saying Russia hasn't partaken in disinformation campaigns. That would be as illogical as saying the United States has never partaken in disinformation campaigns. But this thread isn't offering any proofs, other than some blurbs from very possibly biased sources. That was my point.
     
  13. Critical Thinker

    Critical Thinker Senior Member

    From Politifact: How Russian trolls exploited Parkland mass shooting on social media

     
  14. Critical Thinker

    Critical Thinker Senior Member

    From Yahoo News: Exclusive: The true origins of the Seth Rich conspiracy theory. A Yahoo News investigation.

     
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  15. Agent K

    Agent K Active Member

    I was looking at that website, and indeed their articles start with, "A truly mind-blowing new Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today..." and, "A heavily redacted highly classified “Of Special Importance” new Ministry of Defense (MoD) report circulating in the Kremlin today..."

    Here's the one about Seth Rich
    http://archive.is/RxXMb
    About the site's operator
    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal
    About David Booth
    https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/booth-david/6298
     
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  16. Agent K

    Agent K Active Member

    This whatdoesitmean.com website is not just doing the typical conspiracy theorist anomaly hunting, connecting the dots, or "just asking questions," but it's reporting fabricated events that didn't happen, fake news sourced to SVR reports. It's quite a revelation that their bogus "somber SVR report" about Seth Rich really did come from SVR.