Sleeping Dogs: Preview of New Corbel Documentary

[NorCal Dave]

Longtime UFO proponent and leaker of anomalous military videos, Jeremy Corbel has a new documentary in the works scheduled for a May 12 premiere according to an article in the Daily Mail. The documentary supposedly highlights some documents found that belonged to a former employee of the Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL):

A senior cybersecurity official at one of America's most secretive nuclear laboratories left behind files after his death that an insider has claimed reveal the US government has long been studying UFOs.

The documents, described as containing internal memos, scientific reports and images, were allegedly discovered among the belongings of the former head of cybersecurity at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL).

According to the article, the son of the late cyber-security person found the documents and passed them onto Corbel:

After the official's death, his son Johnny was sorting through personal effects when he reportedly stumbled upon files labeled with references to 'atmospheric anomalies.'

The discovery was later passed to investigative journalist Jeremy Corbell, who said the contents shocked even him. 'This is a real scientific study at the classified level within our military of UFOs,' he told the Daily Mail.

According to Corbell, the discovery began when the cybersecurity chief's son began reviewing stored materials left behind after his father's death.

'This kid, after his dad passed away, starts going through and realizes, "oh, this is some heavy stuff,"' Corbell said.

In Corbell's Sleeping Dog, a film by Michael Lazovsky, he receives a package from Johnny, bursting with files reportedly from LANL.

Johnny told Corbell on the phone that the files included 'official documents from the lab that talk about meetings they had about atmospheric anomalies.'

'There's also some information in there about Russian sightings,' Johnny can be heard saying to Corbell over the phone.

And according to Corbel, there is evidence of the US working with UFOs:

'Los Alamos was always a place where there were elements of the study of the UFO phenomenon… these documents are 100 percent proof that Los Alamos was taking it very seriously,' Corbell said.

It also sounds like a lot of this may involve the so-called "Gulf Breeze UFOs". Those attuned to UFO stories and lore may know that supposed UFO whistle-blower Bob Lazar got his start at LANL, before claiming to go on to Area 51 and Site 4. There are several documentaries about Lazar's somewhat dubious and fantastical claims, including one by Corbel. One wonders if this new documentary will include a similar treatment of the very likely hoaxed photographs of Gulf Breeze contractor Ed Walters:

Corbell shared several pages with the Daily Mail showing what appeared to be mysterious saucer-like craft, crop circles etched across fields and a cylinder-shaped UFO.

There was also a document titled Illustrations and Photos by the Gulf Breeze Witness, which contains dozens of witness sketches and photographic enlargements depicting unidentified flying objects repeatedly seen over the coastal Florida town between 1987 and 1991.

The files pointed to a sustained pattern of sightings rather than isolated incidents.

Many witnesses described disc-shaped craft with rows of bright white lights, red and green flashing lights and visible 'portholes,' with some objects estimated to be 10 to 20 feet tall and up to 120 feet wide, hovering silently above homes, shorelines and wooded areas.

Several photographs attributed to key witness Ed Walters show glowing objects with overexposed white centers surrounded by red or blue-green halos.

One of Ed Walters photos from the article:

The files also include crop circles:

Which is also the cover of a Led Zepplin boxed set, though inverted:

Crop circles and Ed Walters Gulf Breeze photos, maybe that's why Corbel added a caveat:

Despite his claims, Corbell acknowledged that the documents alone may not convince skeptics but insisted they confirm longstanding suspicions about government secrecy surrounding UFO programs.

'There's nothing I would say revelatory to me in these documents, but it's confirmation that I'm on the right track,' he said.

https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15738961/los-alamos-cyber-chief-secret-ufo-files.html

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Sigh…
I know Jeremy is working hard. I just wish we could have proof to convince skeptics; proof beyond a reasonable doubt vs. preponderance of circumstantial evidence.

 

[jarlrmai]

What do you think Jeremy is working hard at?

 

[FatPhil]

Sigh…
I know Jeremy is working hard. I just wish we could have proof to convince skeptics; proof beyond a reasonable doubt vs. preponderance of circumstantial evidence.

You don't even have the latter yet either. All you have, as evidenced by your above statement, is wishful thinking.

 

[JMartJr]

Lacking any evidence that "Johnny" or Jeremy have been called into the FBI to explain themselves in their handling of classified matetial, I'm going to assume until shown otherwise that these documents are not classified. This might be because there is nothing secret in them, or it might be because they are bogus. In either case, they won't reveal amazing secrets!

Corbel seems a bit breathless to have found proof that the government has studied UFOs... well no kidding, they have studied them off and on since before I was born. They have released their findings multiple times, and FOA has been used to pull original documents from, for example, CIA records.

Perhaps Mr. Corbel should spend an afternoon reviewing what the government discovered in these investigations: nothing.

 

[Todd Feinman]

What do you think Jeremy is working hard at?

I try to be kind to people.

 

[jarlrmai]

I try to be kind to people.

It's a genuine question, I'm fascinated by what people imagine UFO promoters days look like, especially those that think there is something none mundane going on other.

 

[Todd Feinman]

It's a genuine question, I'm fascinated by what people imagine UFO promoters days look like, especially those that think there is something none mundane going on other.

Good question! Hard to put it into words. From my perspective, I find all of the UFO shows and proliferation of influencers truly baffling. Honestly, I had no idea so many people had been so obsessed with UFOs for so long. I was not deeply into the subject myself, but certainly found it interesting. I knew about the big UFO researchers, and the rough history of government studies of UFOs. I grew up like many folks here, before the Internet was publicly available. Everything became very connected. I was pleasantly surprised at the intelligence and obsessiveness of so many people studying the subject. I don't scrutinize UFO influencers and claimants as closely as many here; many of them start to drive me crazy for the same reasons they drive the rest of you so. As I mentioned before, I was surprised by everything that happened after the NYT article, and frankly I had hoped that it would put all of this behind us and we could move on with the understanding we are not alone. Instead, absolute proof was not provided, and still, only some of us are not alone. I had resigned myself to just relating my experiences to others until it became pointless.
From my perspective, I'm just watching everything unfold. You all are doing your due diligence, and you must. That is critically important not just for the subject of UFOs, but for science and rationality, generally. This becomes even more important as so few seem to have any scientific knowledge at all, and things generally are becoming difficult for the average person to understand.
Do I think something will come out that will substantially change the conversation? You bet.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Sigh…
I know Jeremy is working hard. I just wish we could have proof to convince skeptics; proof beyond a reasonable doubt vs. preponderance of circumstantial evidence.

Don't hold your breath on this one. Obviously, one doesn't give away all their secrets when teasing a new documentary, but crop circles and the Gulf Breeze photos?

There seems to be multiple narratives going on here. There is this article in the Daily Mail about Sleeping Dogs, that was in the OP. Then there is the YouTube trailer for the actual film. Between the 2 of them, it seems likely the title refers to older claims and cases. There will be little new or compelling evidence presented, rather a collection of oldies but goodies rehashed as a cinematic Gish Gallop.

I'm just speculating here, but from reading the article this was my takeaway concerning the files:

After a former cyber-security person at LANL passed away his son found a bunch of his files. These files seem to include things like crop circles, the Gulf Breeze photos and lots of other UFO related material as well as some work stuff:

The documents, described as containing internal memos, scientific reports and images, were allegedly discovered among the belongings of the former head of cybersecurity at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL).

I got the vibe that this guy was into UFOs and what the son found was his collection of UFO stuff. As @JMartJr noted above, it's highly unlikely any of this stuff is classified, despite Corbel's claims:

The discovery was later passed to investigative journalist Jeremy Corbell, who said the contents shocked even him. 'This is a real scientific study at the classified level within our military of UFOs,' he told the Daily Mail.

It's just some guys collection of UFO memorabilia. Maybe there are some notes about some things going on at LANL, but again, likely nothing secret.

Corbel finds himself with a pile of UFO notes, clippings and photos but no obvious smoking gun, so what to do? Start by playing up the "UFO insider" angle about the late cyber guy because he worked at LANL:

'Los Alamos was always a place where there were elements of the study of the UFO phenomenon… these documents are 100 percent proof that Los Alamos was taking it very seriously,' Corbell said.

Just a side note here, but let's remember Corbel did whole documentary on Bob Lazar and his claims. Lazar claimed he worked at LANL in the '80s as a physicist (he was a lab tech and ran a photo store) where he was recruited by Edward Teller (unlikely) to work on UFOs at Area 51/S4. There was NEVER any mention of UFO research at LANL. Lazar didn't allegedly work on UFOs until after he left LANL. IF, as Corbel claims, LANL "was always a place where there were elements of study or the UFO phenomenon..." one would think Lazar would have worked on UFOs there before going on to Area 51. As his security clearances were so high, he would have at least know about the UFO work going on at LANL, but again, there is no mention of it.

Despite his claim of "This is a real scientific study at the classified level within our military of UFOs," what he presents, at least in the teaser article, is just some same old, same old. Here is some of the photos included in the article that go along with the crop circles and Ed Walters UFo from the OP:

There's nothing very compelling in any of this. Then there is the discussion, in the Daily Mail article of the Gulf Breeze events and Ed Walters' photos:

Several photographs attributed to key witness Ed Walters show glowing objects with overexposed white centers surrounded by red or blue-green halos.

https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15738961/los-alamos-cyber-chief-secret-ufo-files.html

Even in UFO circles, the Walters photos are suspect at best. He made multiple claims:

Walters claimed to have experienced missing time on three prior occasions...

Under hypnosis, Walters stated that he discovered that he had been "abducted by aliens on several occasions".[7]​
On February 7, 1988, Walters allegedly photographed his wife attempt to outrun the blue beam. Walters also claimed to have communicated further with the aliens; he or his family reported nineteen sightings or encounters over time. On May 1, 1988, Walters reported feeling the alien presence while he was at Shoreline Park after midnight, saw the UFO and took a photo of it, then "lost consciousness for an hour".[2]​ Walters stated that the UFO leaked some kind of liquid that continued to boil even nineteen days after he captured it.[3]​​

Models that look just like his photos were found in one of his homes:​​

The model was discovered under insulation in the home's attic after Walters and his family had moved out in 1988. ​​
On drafting paper were "carefully drawn and punched out 'windows'" which encircled two-thirds of the model. On the reverse side of the drafting paper were hand-written dimensions for a house on Jamestown Drive, written "in what appears to be Ed Walters' handwriting ... According to Santa Rosa County building permits ... Walters has built at least two homes on Jamestown Drive"​​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Breeze_UFO_incident

None of this is mentioned and I'm wondering why go back to Walters and Gulf Breeze almost 30 years later? But maybe the title of the film, Sleeping Dogs explains it.

The 2:00 trailer spend a good portion of the time portraying Corbel as an action figure doing martial arts, drinking beer, loading his gun and other manly stuff, including literally digging with a shovel as he narrates "...I went searching for the truth":

Just so we're clear, he's really digging into the UFO story.

Then the trailer has Corbel saying he went back to old files and claims with the likes of John Lear and yes, Lazar. Just watching the trailer I think we're getting how much of a badass Corbel is mixed with a hagiography of his mentor, and the Godfather of Skinwalker Ranch, George Knapp and a bunch of old stuff.

He says in the trailer it's not about any specific video or claim, rather he hints it's about the totality of what he's found:

I doubt there will be anything very compelling in any of this. Just lot's of rehashing oldies but goodies for the fans. But he still might be killed for it:

Trailer is here:


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx_anJdFlL4&t=3s
​​

 

[Todd Feinman]

Yeah, I saw some of that Gulf Breeze stuff and that was a turn-off. Thank you for bringing together that information! I just have a hard time sitting through any kind of UFO documentary anymore. Rick mentioned the same thing; I wonder if that's relatively common among people who believe they have seen strange things. But mostly it's the repetition and resurrection of debunked cases that makes it like being lashed with a whip or something.

 

[Mendel]

Wasn't Corbel pushing that wargame scenario as "Immaculate Constellation"?
Maybe he's doubling down on that.
Or am I getting mixed up?

 

[Rick Robson]

Yeah, I saw some of that Gulf Breeze stuff and that was a turn-off. Thank you for bringing together that information! I just have a hard time sitting through any kind of UFO documentary anymore. Rick mentioned the same thing; I wonder if that's relatively common among people who believe they have seen strange things. But mostly it's the repetition and resurrection of debunked cases that makes it like being lashed with a whip or something.

Hey Todd,.I don't believe (neither want to believe ha ha!), I rather did see very strange things .
Correct if I'm wrong, but I think you somewhere stated that the general lack of a basic scientific knowledge is only making people more and more confused, turning it even harder for them to have a plausible opinion on the UFO phenomenon, alas. And I absolutely agree with you in this issue.

 

[Todd Feinman]

Hey Todd,.I don't believe (neither want to believe ha ha!), I rather did see very strange things .
Correct if I'm wrong, but I think you somewhere stated that the general lack of a basic scientific knowledge is only making people more and more confused, turning it even harder for them to have a plausible opinion on the UFO phenomenon, alas. And I absolutely agree with you in this issue.

Yeah, I didn't think you considered yourself a "believer"
But yes, to everything else! It seems more important than ever for people to understand science with so much deliberate misinformation and ignorance out there. Not just concerning UFOs.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Wasn't Corbel pushing that wargame scenario as "Immaculate Constellation"?
Maybe he's doubling down on that.
Or am I getting mixed up?

Shellenburger got the IC story going when he presented it to Congress without saying who he got it from IIRC. After Mathew Brown came out as the source for it, he went on Corbel and Knapp's podcast/YouTube channel, Weaponized for a few episodes. These guys are always cross pollination.

There's no mention of IC in the Daily Mail article and if it's in the trailer for the movie, I didn't see it. But, it's a slick trailer with lots of quick cuts and multiple people talking in addition to Corbel. Some I obviously recognized, like Knapp and Lazar, others I didn't so it could have been mentioned. I didn't get the idea that this was a wargame type thing, but I could have missed it.

Again, just going off the article and the trailer, but I'd even suggest the film has a Hero Quest vibe to it. It's about who Corbel is, how he got to where he is and his quest to answer the UFO question. Along his journey he has a guiding mentor in Knapp and what seems an oracle-like figure in John Lear. Corbel claims this film is about his journey. It's not necessarily BY him, as it was directed by Michael Lazovski. Corbel says it's the culmination of 11 years of secret research that seemed to start with Lear. At 00:49 in the trailer, Corbel says he went to Lear:

And this shot of Corbel is immediately followed by a vintage shot of Knapp saying "John Lear":

I guess it's fitting as Lear helped Knapp move beyond local Las Vegas TV:

On January 28, 1988, Lear was interviewed by TV journalist George Knapp.[28]​
Lear introduced journalist George Knapp to UFO whistle-blower Bob Lazar and his tales of Area 51.[15]​[10]​ On May 15, 1989, KLAS-TV broadcast a live interview between George Knapp and Lazar, clad in shadow and using the pseudonym "Dennis". The following November, Lazar again appeared, this time unmasked and under his own name.[32]​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lear

The description on YouTube also list others that Corbel spoke with including:

...featuring insiders both known and unknown, including astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Col. John B. Alexander, John Lear, Bob Lazar, David Grusch, nuclear chemist Edmund Storms, Cmdr. David Fravor, journalist George Knapp, and many more.

Fravor and Grusch are newer in the scene, but it seems like a lot of it is about some of the bigger names from the '70s-'90s.

If Corbel is going to use the claims of John Lear, they're definitely interesting. The Wiki page for Lear links to his statement he was making on an early Bulletin Board, ParaNet. https://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/coverup.htm

Here's some highlights:

In its effort to protect democracy our government sold us to the
aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin I'd like
to offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away.
They had the best of intentions.

The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons; they
were indeed ugly little creatures, shaped like praying mantises
and were more advanced than us by perhaps a billion years. Of the
original group that were the first to learn the "horrible truth"
several committed suicide, the most prominent of which was Defense
Secretary James V. Forrestal, who jumped to his death from a 16th-
story hospital window. Secretary Forrestal's medical records are
sealed to this day.

President Truman quickly put a lid on the secret and turned the
screws so tight that the general public still thinks that flying
saucers are a joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them.

It includes Lear talking about Majestic 12, which wasn't quite a proven hoax at the time, but also include other fully debunked cases like the Aztec NM crashed saucer and thing we still hear about today, like a buried saucer:

In 1947 President Truman established a group of 12 twelve top
military and scientific personnel of their time. They were known
as MJ-12.

There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's: one in
Roswell, Mew Mexico; one in Aztec, New Mexico; and one near
Laredo, Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border.

One saucer was so enormous and the logistical problems in
transportation so enormous that it was buried at the crash site
and remains there today.

And of course the meetings between aliens and the US government that got us some alien technology in exchange for allowing alien abductions and cattle mutilations:

On April 25, 1964, the first official communication between these
aliens and the U.S. government took place at Hollomon Air Force
Base in New Mexico. Three saucers landed at a pre-arranged area
and a meeting was held between the aliens and intelligence
officers of the U.S. government.

During the late 60's or early 70's MJ-12, representing the U.S.
government, made a deal with these creatures called EBE's (extra-
terrestrial biological entities, named by Detley Bronk, original
MJ-12 member and sixth president of Johns Hopkins University).
The "deal" was that in exchange for "technology" that they would
provide to us we agreed to "ignore" the abductions that were going
on and suppress information on the cattle mutilations. The EBE's
assured MJ-12 that the abductions (usually lasting about two
hours) were merely the ongoing monitoring of developing
civilizations.

In foreshadowing the child-adrenochrom pizza gate mash-up of the late 2010s, Lear explained that the aliens needed "secretions" from abducted people. Or cows work too:

The EBE's have a genetic disorder in that their digestive system
is atrophied and not functional. Some speculate that they were
involved in some type of accident or nuclear war, or that they are
possibly on the back side of an evolutionary genetic curve. In
order to sustain themselves, they use an enzyme or hormonal
secretion obtained from the tissue they extract from humans and
animals. (Note: Cows and humans are genetically similar. In the
event of a national disaster cow hemoglobin can be used by
humans.)

I could go on, but there is nothing new here. This particular rant by Lear has been around since 1987. Many of the ideas in it are even older. One can read it for themselves.Lear became involved with the conspirator Bill Cooper, author of Behold a Pale Rider, then got accused of being a disinfo agent by Cooper. Lear passed in 2022.

 

[Ann K]

Do I think something will come out that will substantially change the conversation? You bet.

I don't. The one thing that we know for certain is that is absurdly easy these days to make a buck (or simply generate attention) by saying outlandish things on social media. That means that it becomes difficult-to-impossible to distinguish actual viewers and believers from mere entrepreneurs, and to separate viewers of something weird from those who simply misinterpret what they've seen. The pool of information is so severely tainted in that way that no firm conclusions can be drawn. We can see that, again and again, when we think a case is thoroughly debunked or identified as something mundane, only to see it brought up anew when someone presents another collection of cases.

Positive alien identifications, such as crashed craft or life forms? That might do it ...IF and WHEN that happens. I'm not holding my breath. But the old maxim is that it takes an order of magnitude more effort to debunk a tale than it took to create it out of whole cloth, and I think that estimate is wildly understated. So we are left with claims on one hand, and only those non-existent positive proofs accepted on the other, and there is no settling the matter unless the debunks are treated with the same amount of respect as the claims.

 

[Todd Feinman]

That all makes sense. Re-reading my text above, I see that I wrote "think" instead of "hope" which is what I meant to type. I get it. I am also surprised by how much nonsense and misidentifications are created and proliferate and take forever to leave popular imagination. That's the tragedy of the situation. I think other people have seen what I've seen, and have seen those things in the past, too. I think you'd be surprised if you had a chance to see it for yourselves. I hope that eventually someone will capture footage or data of the phenomenon that convinces skeptics. Then what is it? Depending on the evidence and behavior of it, we could all try and figure it out. Do we are all just waiting, but as I said before, your approach is the one which must be taken.