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  • Todd Feinman
    The linked-to article is about the debunked magnesium-zinc-bismuth-lead scrap, thread AARO Releases Lab Report on Alleged Alien Metamaterial. @NorCal Dave, @MonkeeSage and others have told us about the whole saga. It's not of extraterrestrial...
  • Todd Feinman
    I don’t have a foot in that game. Have you thought about a poll for Metabunkers? That might be interesting.
  • A
    This thread is beginning to lose focus, so I'd like to ask a simple question. Those who believe that studying the "UAP phenomenon" scientifically is both reasonable and possible: do you also believe that Bigfoot can be studied scientifically...
  • Ann K
    To me, it's not about disproving alien visitations or even claims that the US government knows all about them. That simply can't be done. It's about testing each piece of claimed evidence individually. I'm not religious, but I have no problem...
  • Ann K
    The linked-to article is about the debunked magnesium-zinc-bismuth-lead scrap, thread AARO Releases Lab Report on Alleged Alien Metamaterial. @NorCal Dave, @MonkeeSage and others have told us about the whole saga. It's not of extraterrestrial...
  • Ann K
    This discussion came up in another thread, and I want to continue it here. Personally, I see no reason to study the so-called "UAP phenomenon" scientifically, since I see no reason to believe such a phenomenon exists. To me, UAPs only exist in...
  • Todd Feinman
    Wow! Very cool. I thought things were looking up for ancient Mars life, but yeah, need those samples. Then you have to figure out if life arose independently on Earth and Mars. That would be good to know, if ever possible.
  • Todd Feinman
    Habitable exoplanets do not translate to "They're right here in our own atmosphere". And the exploration of Mars has diddly squat to do with "alien life" (in the UAP sense), but is a geological exploration that might lead to more information...
  • John J.
    UAP reports can be studied. But commissions have established 50 years ago that there is little scientific value in it.⁴ However much the believers claim otherwise, a UAP phenomenon has not been shown to exist¹. There is no set of characteristics...
  • John J.
    "If it is smarter than we are, it might not want to be studied." - and therein lies a major issue. The hypothesis that a UAP phenomenon exists is unfalsifiable because it can always be said that they have more intelligence and better technology...
  • John J.
    On one hand, I think I get your point and it makes complete sense. A UAP or UFO, by definition, is something that we don't have enough information to find out what it is, and it can be a huge variety of different things. So how could a there be a...
  • John J.
    Evidence may not be binary, but existence is. Either something exists or it doesn't. So the spectrum and the available weight of evidence points to a binary conclusion. Before working out what something is we need to determine if it exists or...
  • John J.
    Can we not? If you want to use such a query as the starting point for your reply, that's fine. But just pasting that stuff into the thread is a waste of space. I think the mainly relevant part to this was that scientific interest in the topic is...
  • Ann K
    Habitable exoplanets do not translate to "They're right here in our own atmosphere". And the exploration of Mars has diddly squat to do with "alien life" (in the UAP sense), but is a geological exploration that might lead to more information...
  • Gary C
    This is no accidental lack of understanding - it's been explained half a dozen times now - it's deliberate. You're overlooking the cases where the blurry data is simply not interesting - noise is not intrinsically interesting, sometimes it's...
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