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  • Charlie Wiser
    That article has a theory it was Canadian "snowbirds" flying south for flying hours. However, other than the pilot's comment there's no corroborating evidence. The photo and video linked from the article don't show the same thing: These show...
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  • NorCal Dave
    Sorry I was unclear... "In at least the same general time frame and going the same direction" was to refer to the following reports and descriptions, not the preceding one. Mea culpa. He reported a bunch of planes together in a bunch. That's...
  • jackfrostvc
    Apparently there's a new Doco on the pic etc. They claim there is a new drum scan photo of it they found. It's all in this tweet, I dont care enough about this case to dig it all p. Just posting this here for those interested "the team...
  • BoulderRiver
    BoulderRiver reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread The Varginha UFO with Like Like.
    Go back to post #79. Prolific Varginha researcher and native Portuguese speaker @BoulderRiver gives a breakdown of it. He and @Gaspa are the ones to ask.
  • Y
    Thank you Mick for taking the time to look at the footage and posting your GPS analysis. I'm sorry I didn't make two important things clear in the original post: The full movie has a very detailed chapter index and timestamps so you can jump...
  • J
    Sorry I was unclear... "In at least the same general time frame and going the same direction" was to refer to the following reports and descriptions, not the preceding one. Mea culpa. He reported a bunch of planes together in a bunch. That's...
  • Ann K
    Ann K reacted to Trailspotter's post in the thread Contrail shadow? with Agree Agree.
    Not quite shadows, but merely 'dark' contrails seen yesterday through a lower haze illuminated by the sun. In the clear sky they would be bright white.
  • Ann K
    Hi Silverado, welcome. The paper lists one author. It is common for academic/ research papers to have a discussion section. Unless it is clearly stated otherwise, the reader will be under the impression that the discussion section is written by...
  • JMartJr
    Sorry I was unclear... "In at least the same general time frame and going the same direction" was to refer to the following reports and descriptions, not the preceding one. Mea culpa. He reported a bunch of planes together in a bunch. That's...
  • Charlie Wiser
    No, the time was two hours earlier and unlike the second part (flares) the first object moved across Arizona and was viewed from several directions. He didn't report a formation, and certainly not v-shaped. No, the Snowbird planes is an...
  • FatPhil
    Speculation, I'm afraid: It's long been said that the people who tell a tall tale eventually begin to believe it themselves. I think that must also be true of people who never tell the tale except in their own minds, to themselves: "I wish I had...
  • FatPhil
    Hi Silverado, welcome. The paper lists one author. It is common for academic/ research papers to have a discussion section. Unless it is clearly stated otherwise, the reader will be under the impression that the discussion section is written by...
  • RTM
    RTM reacted to Trailspotter's post in the thread Contrail shadow? with Like Like.
    Not quite shadows, but merely 'dark' contrails seen yesterday through a lower haze illuminated by the sun. In the clear sky they would be bright white.
  • FatPhil
    You can't even evaluate FWHM from photographic plates - they're non-linear because they're clipped - you have no idea how high the max was, so have no idea where half is.
  • FatPhil
    Aberrations/vignetting definitely make the PSF not a constant across the whole plane, yes. However, seeing is an additional variation from a simplistic mathematical perfection that would be detected at the sensor - but the noise it introduces to...
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