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Chief Gleeby reacted to kotare's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with
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hi, agree entirely, i stress Im no kind of expert on any of this, but recently read "The Hidden Hand: Britain, America and cold war secret intelligence" by Richard J. Aldrich, which i would recommend to anyone interested. The final chapter... -
Gary C reacted to kotare's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with Like.
hi, agree entirely, i stress Im no kind of expert on any of this, but recently read "The Hidden Hand: Britain, America and cold war secret intelligence" by Richard J. Aldrich, which i would recommend to anyone interested. The final chapter... -
Gary C reacted to MapperGuy's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with
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The increasing length of time over which it is claimed the conspiracy has been going on is actually hurting their story, it does is allow them to include older and older claims, but it also makes it less and less plausible that the conspiracy has... -
Gary C reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with
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I think one of the problems in the UFO world is the conflating of various types of conspiracies with the idea of known secret programs. There are events that you described as "governments doing evil stuff then lying about it". This might include... -
Gary C reacted to FatPhil's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with Agree.
Rewording your second point: the capabilies that are claimed (near omnipotence, as you say) are laughably underused - so much more could be done, and yet isn't. For no apparent reason. Another 'just so' story.
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Gary C reacted to LilWabbit's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with Agree.
This! Conspiracy theories often stumble upon what could be called (1) the omnipotence and (2) cost-effectiveness fallacy. Firstly, the 'they' in conspiracy theories is always far more sinister, capable, resourceful, tightly guarded and powerful...
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Gary C reacted to Mendel's post in the thread Scale, Viability, and Cost of 'The Conspiracy/Coverup' with Agree.
it's a secret that wasn't kept from Wikipedia: Known in Italy as the Ustica massacre ("strage di Ustica"), the disaster led to numerous investigations, as well as legal actions and accusations; it continues to be a source of controversy...
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Dr Garry Nolan's reasoning mirrors that of a religious zealot who considers skeptics as an enemy of the faith. This flawed logic is essentially: "Convert to my religion first, donate a substantial sum to it, and repent! We can debate it once I... -
Not sure where to post this, but I think this thread fits, for the sheer absurdity factor: https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/garry-nolan-outlines-bizarre-conditions-for-a-potential-interview-with-mick-west In an eighty-minute appearance today...
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flarkey reacted to Z.W. Wolf's post in the thread A cigar-shaped unidentified luminous object captured on a Xinjiang passenger aircraft [Likely Ski Area] with Agree.
Well, I'm certainly convinced. Well done Starflint, and everyone else involved. Ski Slope A would seem to be the culprit. Both ski slopes run across the witness's line of sight. Which fits the Mystery Object's appearance - a line of light... -
Z.W. Wolf replied to the thread A cigar-shaped unidentified luminous object captured on a Xinjiang passenger aircraft [Likely Ski Area].Well, I'm certainly convinced. Well done Starflint, and everyone else involved. Ski Slope A would seem to be the culprit. Both ski slopes run across the witness's line of sight. Which fits the Mystery Object's appearance - a line of light... -
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Starflint reacted to Mick West's post in the thread A cigar-shaped unidentified luminous object captured on a Xinjiang passenger aircraft [Likely Ski Area] with Like.
We already have the angular size from the video match (a reasonable match for the ski area). And the reflection is blown out as well. Here's the matching moon from Sitrec -
MonkeeSage reacted to Mick West's post in the thread A cigar-shaped unidentified luminous object captured on a Xinjiang passenger aircraft [Likely Ski Area] with Like.
The line is just a measurement arrow that points at the buildings that are in the same place in the recreation as the UFO is in the video. It passes close to the other buildings. We have a 3D recreation of the path of the plane, and can match...
