Tokyo "UFO" lights from 2008

[ThomasH]

Where? In the forum post?

In the X post "The location is unknown because the owner truncates the GCs" - I guess he means the Lat/Long.

 

[ThomasH]

In the X post "The location is unknown because the owner truncates the GCs" - I guess he means the Lat/Long.

ChatGPT says it's an area of 1.85 km × 1.52 km

 

[jarlrmai]

In the X post "The location is unknown because the owner truncates the GCs" - I guess he means the Lat/Long.

Interesting, so the X person must have been aware of the forum post?

 

[ThomasH]

Interesting, so the X person must have been aware of the forum post?

I can't really figure out the relationship between the X poster and the one who made it.
But it's too hard finding the real location and it really doesn't help much.
I still don't think it's an object.

 

[Kyle Ferriter]

I just came across this video of fields in Ukraine where fiber optic drones have been flying over and leaving behind the cables. Both Ukraine and Russia are using fiber optic drones which carry and dispense spools with up to tens of kilometers of fiber optic cable for control, to make them invulnerable to radio frequency jamming. Not implying the OP video is fiber optic lines, but just giving more examples of what thin reflective strands can look like.

Video without music:

Source from Twitter

And another from June 27:

Source from Twitter (Official Ukraine account)

 

[Ravi]

On a side note, after the war, we do not need to recover mines, we need to recover a lot of cables... What is worse?

 

[jarlrmai]

On a side note, after the war, we do not need to recover mines, we need to recover a lot of cables... What is worse?

We need to do both, a lot of mines have been used in this conflict and now there's reams of plastic snagging up the environment, war is terrible for the planet.

 

[flarkey]

Another example of spiderweb reflection appearing as a pair of lights with erratic movement...

And another...


Source: https://x.com/Kobe_for_3/status/1950744002447167987?t=9aA4arRkeI8V1GGvC_h-ig&s=19

 

[Ann K]

On a side note, after the war, we do not need to recover mines, we need to recover a lot of cables... What is worse?

Well ...which one can blow your legs off?

 

[JMartJr]

Well ...which one can blow your legs off?

While I don't know how strong or thin the fiber optic cable is, it must be fairly strong and fairly then for a drone to carry kilometers of it. Which puts me in mind of the "manja" string used in Indian fighter kites -- traditionally linen or cotton thread, now often splastics/ynthetics which are thinner and stronger, and in either case are coated with a "sand" of ground glass to make them abrasive. Large numbers of downed kite lines wind up draped across trees and buildings during kite fighting season and become a real hazard to pedestrians, kids running and playing, and people on bicycles or motorcycles. And it can be lethal to birds and wildlife. It cuts like a knife if you run into it with any force. I'll not post images of the injuries caused to people running into manja, some of you are possibly eating!

This fiber optic cable is almost certainly less abrasive, but still I would not dismiss it as a potential real hazard.

That said, yeah, I'd worry more about land mines in terms of damage done per interaction -- but the cables MAY cover substantially more area than mines, if so this might lead to a greater number of interactions. So they both are going to be a problem.

 

[Kyle Ferriter]

I also replied to Chris Spitzer on Twitter two weeks ago asking what I thought was pretty reasonable questions for clarification on what specifically he did to obtain his processed form of what he says is a dark physical object between the two dots of light, not because I think there can't be anything there (e.g. maybe there could be a strand of spiderweb), but because I am skeptical that stacking a few very low resolution images can legitimately take you from something like this:

to this, which is orders of magnitude more detailed in terms of pixel resolution, and has a very different color pattern:

I'm not even clear where the white blobs from the video align with ^this composite image.

Granted, I am not very familiar with image stacking, maybe I am underestimating its capabilities. I was really just looking for which frames he took and what settings he used, and what other upscaling or contrast enhancement he applied. These are not described anywhere in this thread or his original one on it from 2024. I downloaded Registax and was watching tutorials but I was not able to reproduce anything remotely similar to this. But Spitzer blocked me almost immediately. After just 3 back and forth where I made what I think (maybe I'm wrong) were not rude or "trolling" replies to his points. Not that I care that much, but he also wrongly accused me of not using the original raw video file, even though I did.

FWIW (not that much) I took Chris' Grok chat explainer of frame stacking and added one question to the thread asking "How much can frame stacking increase the detail resolution of a sequence of frames?", and I think Grok's response to that reinforces my sense that it is right to be skeptical about that image. Though of course this doesn't prove that there is not a dark object shaped like that. Just that it should be interpreted skeptically and it could very well be a misleading output of the editing+stacking process.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/f3xKzRFlltdhtiA5rxJR0Sihh