deirdre
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if you click that twitter link, the first response shows what the Mueller report says about it."Anything of value from a foreign national",
if you click that twitter link, the first response shows what the Mueller report says about it."Anything of value from a foreign national",
Zerohedge picked this up back in February:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...start-ku-klux-klan-and-its-still-party-racism
It is commentary trying to brand the Democrats as still being the kkk party, pointing at people like George Wallace and the distribution of the congressional vote on the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
It seems odd to me that a financial news outlet would engage in this kind of muck-raking distortion of history unless it has some other agenda.
Rational Wiki suggests that Zero Hedge is part of the problem:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge
It seems Mr Putin has been mobilizing his troops to sway the comment sections of various publications -
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
Documents: https://mega.co.nz/#!X5gSBBBZ!W9Iw2Q_sdkxBbFKR-yhnykQd8V4RQ9tcPt5Gdt128HA [138MB of Russian emails]
And yes, i am well aware there is a possiblility i could end up accused of being one of those trolls, or a Russian shill.
The article in the OP sems to mainly discuss actual Russians, with their bad English. Is there any evidence of US citizens being recruited to do similar things?
Military's 'sock puppet' software creates online identities to spread pro-American propaganda
Operation earnest voice is an astroturfing campaign by the Federal government of the United states. The aim of the initiative is to use sockpuppets to spread pro-American propaganda on social networking services based outside of the US.
The multiple persona contract is thought to have been awarded as part of a programme called Operation Earnest Voice (OEV),
he asked for evidence, not a line in a Guardian article.
why are you leaving out the source links from your wiki quote?
I merely quoted the wikipedia article.
However the article does have a source which mentions operation earnest voice.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
[/ex]The multiple persona contract is thought to have been awarded as part of a programme called Operation Earnest Voice (OEV),
Operation Earnest Voice is a planned astroturfing campaign by the US government. The aim of the initiative is to use sockpuppets to spread pro-American propaganda on social networking sites based outside of the US. According to the United States Military Central Command (CENTCOM), the US-based Facebook and Twitter networks are not targeted by the program because US laws prohibit US state agencies from spreading propaganda among US citizens.
that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.
A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception.
not saying it isn't. but I personally am not sold that it is the same thing as "us citizens being recruited to do the same thing". I guess if Putin/some Russians sees America as "Jihadists", it would be the same thing. kinda.It is still sockpuppetry, as this link taken from wikipedia should reveal
The article in the OP sems to mainly discuss actual Russians, with their bad English. Is there any evidence of US citizens being recruited to do similar things?
The claim of evidence is that these documents show that there is a "troll army" - i.e. a large number of hired people pushing the Russian POV online.
State sponsored online sockpuppetry and manipulation of online views is practiced by several countries, in particular by Russia, China, United Kingdom, Israel, Turkey, Iran, Vietnam, India and Ukraine.
For quite some time too, that story links to one from feb 2012
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/07/nashi-emails-insight-kremlin-groups-priorities
Regarding emails supposedly sent from Vasily Yakemenko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Yakemenko
Hacked emails that are believed to show correspondence between Nashi's first leader, Vasily Yakemenko, its spokesperson Kristina Potupchik and other activists and bloggers, appear to reveal the notorious Kremlin youth group's goals, priorities, means and concerns.
Many of the emails concern how to boost positive coverage on the internet. One includes payments, noting that 200 pro-Putin online comments left on 60 articles cost 600,000 roubles (£12,555). It also details paid-for coverage.
The question here is if there are a lot of people employed to spread pro-Russian propaganda on the Internet, and if these emails are evidence of such.
The question is NOT if pro-Russian propaganda exists, or does not exist.
The question is NOT if it would be justified or not.
It's just about the claims of evidence made in this article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
The question here is if there are a lot of people employed to spread pro-Russian propaganda on the Internet, and if these emails are evidence of such.
The question is NOT if pro-Russian propaganda exists, or does not exist.
The question is NOT if it would be justified or not.
It's just about the claims of evidence made in this article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
"What, you think crazy Russians all learned English en masse and went off to comment on articles?" said Leonid Bershidsky, a media executive and Bloomberg View columnist. "If it looks like Kremlin shit, smells like Kremlin shit, and tastes like Kremlin shit too — then it's Kremlin shit."
Despite efforts to hire English teachers for the trolls, most of the comments are written in barely coherent English. "I think the whole world is realizing what will be with Ukraine, and only U.S. keep on fuck around because of their great plans are doomed to failure," reads one post from an unnamed forum, used as an example in the leaked documents.
If the Russian Govt was behind trying to mess with politics
feeling the Bern?I think it is plausible that some of the bots/ trolling is a Russia gov dept trying to cause discord in America. (and they are succeeding). I mean we beat them at everything, it must be so frustrating.
The group you are referring to is "Apt28". Specifically part of the GRU. It's a little bit more than just a troll farm. Their operations reach to many different countries. Considering the annexation of the Crimea, and their general belligerence in regards to western nations, it would appear that they have aggressive expansionist ideas. One example is the Bündestag in Germany. Hacker Dmitry Badin thought to be an agent of sorts is wanted by the FBI.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/202...indicted-by-germany-over-the-bundestag-hacks/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/APT_28
What are you responding to? This thread is about troll farms like the Internet Research Agency, not hackers like Fancy Bear.
Apt28 are part of those "troll farms".
Under the heading personas in this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear
What is your best example of Russian influence on the US election in the last century (before 2000)?For the last six years I have found it absolutely unbelievable that "Russia tries to influence US elections using _____" is news or needs debunking. It has been going on for over 100 years and was only brought up by the democratic elite so that they wouldn't have to look within their own organization or evaluate their own policies after losing to a game show host.
I would start by stating that between the US and Russia, according to WikipediaWhat is your best example of Russian influence on the US election in the last century (before 2000)?
For the last six years I have found it absolutely unbelievable that "Russia tries to influence US elections using _____" is news or needs debunking. It has been going on for over 100 years
Sure, let's go with that.However, there's plenty of evidence of it actually happening. That same Wikipedia article mentions 1960 & 1984,
Article: On 1 July 1960 a Soviet MiG-19 shot down an American RB-47H reconnaissance aircraft in the international airspace over the Barents Sea with four of the crew being killed and two captured by the Soviets: John R. McKone and Freeman B. Olmstead. The Soviets held on to those two prisoners, in order to avoid giving Nixon (who was the incumbent Vice-President of the United States) an opportunity to boast about his ability to work with the Soviets, and the two Air Force officers were released just days after Kennedy's inauguration, on 25 January 1961. [..] Kennedy doubting whether the Soviet support made a difference: "I don't think it affected the elections in any way."
Article: 1984 election (by Soviet Union)
When Ronald Reagan was running for reelection as president, the Soviet Union opposed his candidacy and took active measures against it.[113] Soviet intelligence reportedly attempted to infiltrate both the Republican National Committee and Democratic National Committee.[113]
Article: According to extensive notes made by Vasili Mitrokhin, a high-ranking K.G.B. officer and archivist who later defected to Great Britain, Soviet intelligence tried to infiltrate the headquarters of the Republican and Democratic National Committees, popularize the slogan “Reagan Means War!,” and discredit the President as a corrupt servant of the military-industrial complex. The effort had no evident effect.