FatPhil
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The post I was responding to said, about that situation, "which would negate reflection off of the window". I feel we are in violent agreement - that particular claim is bunk.
Looking for help interpreting a video content
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I think the window suggest a RV type vehicle. This is from the video:
Something like this... (Source: https://rv-boondocking-adventure.com/rv-window-replacement)
NorCal Dave
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I'm leaning towards that as likely. However, I still can't figure out the odd arrangement. Your example is a common RV window, with a fixed panel on top and vented ones down low, but it's still all 1 piece:
Our UFO attracting "van" seems to have an upper window and then 1 or 2 separate lower windows that, unusually, don't line up. It has an almost random layout. I can't figure out the offset. The amount of material between the glass also suggest separate windows. I've been to enough RV shows to know the emphasis on "light & bright" and the maximizing of glass in any particular assembly. Even smaller windows will have minimum framing. There does seem to be some sort of handle at the intersection of the 3 panes:
Again, it's always possible this is some sort of 1 off custom or even a DIY van conversion. Some dude got a van and some windows and just cut holes wherever he felt like it.
That seems unlikely given the window layout. The Dodge Caravan, and it's Chrysler/FCA/Stelantis siblings, is the most ubiquitous minivan and has scarcely changed its basic layout in nearly 30 years, 1997 vs 2024:
Same for Toyota and Honda minivans.
Definitely a mystery vehicle at this point. And IF the strange frozen frames that appear in the flip around sequence do indicate some editing between the 2 scenes, it could even allow for 2 different vehicles. If these guys are traveling this stretch of road routinely, they could have made multiple recordings and attempts.
Fritzkquzerk
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God I love the Gran Voyager!
NorCal Dave
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Here's something closer. These windows are in a lot of Sprinter van conversions:
More material between the panels of glass and the lowers don't line up with the upper. Some have seating next to the window:
Or in passenger configuration:
IF it's some sort of Sprinter, there is definitely room to work in.
More material between the panels of glass and the lowers don't line up with the upper. Some have seating next to the window:
Or in passenger configuration:
IF it's some sort of Sprinter, there is definitely room to work in.
If you look at the dates and comments on this thread, you'll see that it's been a while. I received many interesting and excellent critiques and suggestions from this community, which forced me to go back and review my data, my thought processes, and approach to how to evaluate this video.
I'm still hung up on one element. While the consensus seems the manipulation of light sources INSIDE the van to simulate an object OUTSIDE the van, there is one frame near the end of the entire sequence that just doesn't fit that explanation. (below)
If you view the untruncated video, and some versions posted here lose the last second or so, you see the object "receding" with it's flashing elements. The last flashing element is near the horizon apparently behind the tree shown below in blow up.
I can't conjure up any way to create that effect from a flashing light reflecting back off of a window.
I'm not requesting an explanation at this point. Just pointing out that from my point of view, This one data point remains to me an anomoly to conventional explanations.
I don't know what was captured in the video, but I remain skeptical that it was a hoax. There are too many "little" things that just don't fit 100% hoax. My opinion only. I've no intention of expanding the debate.
I Just wanted to thank all who participated and note my personal conclusion.
I'm still hung up on one element. While the consensus seems the manipulation of light sources INSIDE the van to simulate an object OUTSIDE the van, there is one frame near the end of the entire sequence that just doesn't fit that explanation. (below)
If you view the untruncated video, and some versions posted here lose the last second or so, you see the object "receding" with it's flashing elements. The last flashing element is near the horizon apparently behind the tree shown below in blow up.
I can't conjure up any way to create that effect from a flashing light reflecting back off of a window.
I'm not requesting an explanation at this point. Just pointing out that from my point of view, This one data point remains to me an anomoly to conventional explanations.
I don't know what was captured in the video, but I remain skeptical that it was a hoax. There are too many "little" things that just don't fit 100% hoax. My opinion only. I've no intention of expanding the debate.
I Just wanted to thank all who participated and note my personal conclusion.
"Apparently behind" indeed. Personally, I just don't see it. The video is highly compressed, and I don't think it's possible to determine whether the light is actually behind the tree or not.
There are simply too many other indicators, previously discussed in this video, suggesting that what we're looking at is a rather simple hoax involving some kind of light source reflecting off the window.
Just look at how the dirt particles on the window appear to move closer to the camera at the same time as the light approaches. To me, this suggests that the person filming is pushing the camera closer to the window at that moment, creating the illusion that the light is flying towards the car:
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