Image released of mysterious object shot down over Yukon in 2023

Mendel said:
What do you think the government is hiding?
What would the consequences be if it was made public?

This fails to even rise to the level of conspiracy theory, it's so mundane.
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Since you can't get your answers past Mick, here's what I'd expect:
• we'd see photos, videos and possibly some debris of balloons
• our adversaries would learn exactly what kind of intelligence Norad can gather from slow-moving objects

There'd be zero surprise, nothing would be "revealed".
 
Just as a hypothetical example of why photos of any recovered debris might not be made public (and this is pure speculation), maybe the pattern of damage caused by the AIM-9X would give a potential adversary notice of a recent warhead change or refinement.
 
AllTheQuestionsToday said:
Under the law, does the Executive Branch even have the option? I thought the law was unambiguous the last time I saw a write up, that the Executive Branch has no legal ability/power to keep any secrets from the Gang of 8.
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There are some edge cases but it's not a broadly available option, no. For example Covert Action Programs can be waived from congressional notification temporarily so long as the president can justify the reasoning to do so, and, at some point it still has to be notified.
 
so ctvnews.ca was perpetuating a hoax?

Mick West said:
An image of the unidentified object shot down over Canada's Yukon territory in February 2023 has been obtained by CTVNews.ca.

Released through a Canadian freedom of information request, the grainy image appears to be a photocopy of an email printout.
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Mendel said:
so ctvnews.ca was perpetuating a hoax?
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i thought it was cgi at first as it looks like a Cincinnati Reds symbol. BUT it doesnt match any screengrabs i saw from that video which is more an inflated horseshoe shape or "U" shape.
 
Giddierone said:
[The "similar" object from Korea is] CGI.
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I am entirely prepared to believe this statement, but in the link you gave, the 'proof' is not exactly easy to find. How do we know it was made by 'CG artists Nico and Marco Kaschuba from Germany'?

The youtube video in the link is simply full of comments by believers and UAP enthusiasts, and I can't find anything definitive about the hoax nature of these vids.
 
Eburacum said:
I am entirely prepared to believe this statement, but in the link you gave, the 'proof' is not exactly easy to find. How do we know it was made by 'CG artists Nico and Marco Kaschuba from Germany'?

The youtube video in the link is simply full of comments by believers and UAP enthusiasts, and I can't find anything definitive about the hoax nature of these vids.
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the ufoofinterest account is run by a very knowledgeable guy who rarely gets things wrong. If he says it was created by said hoaxers he probably has other info to back that up. He responds to DMs so maybe give him a shout.

As a side note, by coincidence last night I came across a 9/11 video and a very similar object passed across the frame, coming from behind one of the Twin Towers. It took me several seconds to work it out: helicopter with invisible tail due to low definition video. But the resemblance is uncanny. Not the explanation we're looking for but an interesting one to remember for future potential misidentifications

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deirdre said:
dude you could have put a warning on that. that's brutal. [falling people warning] :( are you sure that wasnt the second plane?
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I didn't link to the video. I provided a screenshot.

In the video they do capture the second impact but the guy filming is quite sure it wasn't a plane.. I think he makes that error because the plane came in from the far left, out-of-frame. This "helicopter" is heading left coming from the right. Wrong angle to be the second plane, as far as I can tell. That plus the shape perfectly matching a helicopter (minus the tail) has me pretty confident its a helicopter.
 
Fin said:
That plus the shape perfectly matching a helicopter
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it doesnt really look like a helicopter to me (or a plane).. thats why i looked for the video to see if it flies like a helicopter or plane. it does. and we do know news helicopters were out, so makes sense to assume that. probably this one
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deirdre said:
it doesnt really look like a helicopter to me (or a plane).. thats why i looked for the video to see if it flies like a helicopter or plane. it does. and we do know news helicopters were out, so makes sense to assume that. probably this one
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For it to make more sense imagine a helicopter without any visible blades or tail. These aren't visible due to the low definition & quality of the video. Same reason the pieces of paper flying around are sometimes visible, sometimes not. In the example mockup I've made below its a great match if we slightly change the black outline at the front of the cockpit area. I hope that clarifies what I was talking about :)

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Fin said:
the ufoofinterest account is run by a very knowledgeable guy who rarely gets things wrong. If he says it was created by said hoaxers he probably has other info to back that up. He responds to DMs so maybe give him a shout.

As a side note, by coincidence last night I came across a 9/11 video and a very similar object passed across the frame, coming from behind one of the Twin Towers. It took me several seconds to work it out: helicopter with invisible tail due to low definition video. But the resemblance is uncanny. Not the explanation we're looking for but an interesting one to remember for future potential misidentifications

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What is the time stamp for that frame?
 
Liberation Times published an analysis done by "Condorman" (https://x.com/Condorman6):

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(...) A forward flying horseshoe (meaning it flies in the direction of the opening) can ionize the air that enters the interior section of the horseshoe with an electric discharge between electrodes at both sides of the horseshoe entrance.

This ionized air or cold plasma can be held in the interior space using magnetic fields to trap it.

As more ionized air enters the section, the plasma will become pressurized. The pressurized plasma can then be ejected via fluctuations in the magnetic fields for fast acceleration and braking, as well as quick altitude changes.

In addition, some of the plasma can be ingested into the vehicle to power maneuvering jets located throughout the vehicle surface. See the figure below.

(...)

But what makes building something like this beyond our current capability is the power source.

The power generation needed for the electrodes, magnetic fields, and plasma actuators is very large and both the Yukon and Aguadilla UAPs were very small vehicles.

We currently do not have a way to power such a vehicle unless we have discovered a source of power beyond our existing technology.

As for the tethered payload, I don't have much to go on.

The vehicle may be dropping a sensor in a specific area, delivering a payload to another location, conducting a test with a special sensor, etc.

There is just no way to tell. The released image does have an interesting detail as seen below. Could that be the tethered object?

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Source: https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/an-analysis-of-the-yukon-ufo-incident

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According to partially redacted emails obtained by CTVNews.ca through the information request, the RCMP collected "both material and a module" when debris was discovered "along the shores of Lake Huron" in early March 2023, approximately three weeks after the object was shot down.

"The module is from a company who sells weather monitoring equipment," a senior RCMP member told a Canadian military brigadier-general in a March 13, 2023, email. "It will be analyzed to determine if there is anything unusual with it but I suspect not given the size. Whether or not it is from the shoot down is uncertain."
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/polic...er-object-shot-down-over-lake-huron-1.7110602

Apologies if this was already posted. Not definitively the same object that was shot down.
 
FatPhil said:
So the net thrust is zero? That's going nowhere quickly.
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well, yes, but that's because it dissipates to the top and bottom.
A real-life plasma containment is a sphere, not a circle; that horseshoe "technology" only works in 2D.

(and, btw, the forward end of a horseshoe on an actual horse is the closed end)

(and the electric discharge ionizing the air would give a strong signal across the entire electromagnetic spectrum)

this is bunk for so many reasons
 
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