Cloudsorchems
Member
Hello,
Being a landscape photographer for 18 years (1991-2009), I did a lot of visual study of sky/clouds. I have no interest in the why or how of clouds, so won't pretend to have any scientific knowledge of sky life. My knowledge of clouds relates simply to visual memory, which I would like to believe is mostly accurate.
A few years ago, perhaps beginning in 2011, I began to notice planes leaving long, sky-wide vapors, white/gray in color. This by itself was something I had not seen before. Living in the Chicago area since childhood, which has a high concentration of air traffic, I was always looking up at the sky, and cannot recall a single instance of planes leaving long vapors. The most I would see was what I would call a contrail, a thin, short, white line, which quickly disappeared (a few seconds) after being emitted from the plane. Having a visual interest in the sky, I began to observe these vapors and discovered that instead of quickly dissipating, they would begin to spread across the sky, become slightly grayish, or a dull milk white color, and eventually mix with other vapor trails left by other planes, resulting with what I call a “white out” of the sky. This white out is something I cannot recall seeing prior to 2011.
Beginning in mid - 2012, and continuing to the present (2014), I noticed an increase in these plane vapors. They are now being left by planes on a daily basis. During the day in which I observe them (while out running), the planes and the resulting vapors are constant. It sometimes lasts from morning to evening. By noon the sky exhibits white out, and the light of day appears less intense, with the sun blocked over, as if covered in gauze. On certain rare days, the planes are completely absent, which causes the sky to exhibit its normal pre-2011 features - intense blue and clear. However, the next day, the planes and vapors return.
During the summer of 2012 I spent 4 months in SE Asia. Not once did I see a long vapor trail in the sky. When I returned to the USA the long vapor trails could be seen daily.
Doing some research on the internet, I came to learn of the term “chemtrails”, and two groups of people - those who believe the vapors are metallic compounds intentionally being sprayed from the planes, and those who believe that the vapors are caused by fuel/engine exhaust. As I said, I am not a scientist, and know nothing of aviation engineering, so have no idea what the planes are leaving behind.
Here are the facts which I am 99.9 % certain of -
1) Prior to 2011, I observed no long vapor trails left in the sky from airplanes. For visual proof, in case I want to question the validity of my memory, I have over 20,000 landscape film negatives (exposed from 1991-2009) which show not a single instance of long vapor trails in the sky.
2) From 2011-present, I began to observe long vapor trails, with the trails becoming more numerous and consistent in 2013-2014.
3) Sky white out occurs regularly in 2013-2014.
4) No long vapor trails seen in SE Asia in 2012.
Keeping these facts in mind, I perused the websites of both groups - the chemtrail believers, and the contrail believers. Knowing I am not the only one observing this sky change gives me confidence that my eyes, memory, and judgement are not going bad.
As to what they are called, I could care less. What I want to discover is if indeed the pilots are intentionally spraying substances into the atmosphere, which if they are, would lead to concern for the safety of the planet and its inhabitants. I know that your site claims that the pilots are not “spraying”, and are simply flying their planes in a normal way. Knowing your position, I would like to ask a few questions to help add to my knowledge of this subject.
1) You give examples of photographs prior to 1990 which show clouds resembling modern day jet trails. While these look convincing enough, I remind myself that I am looking at photos on the internet, which means each of these pictures has the potential to be manipulated (adding trail lines, etc). The scanned photos of pages from old cloud books could also be manipulated. I am not saying they have been, but the potential is there, and it could easily be done. Therefore, any pictures you show cannot be used as evidence, due to the possibility of manipulation. The only visual photo evidence which would be acceptable would be actual books which I hold in my hand. I have looked at some of these cloud books, and have not found any pictures with long vapor trails. I also have my own collection of 20,000 landscape film negatives which show no instances of long vapor trails.
If all of the photos you show on your site have the potential of being manipulated, why do you include/exhibit them as proof of long vapor trails existing prior to 1990? These photos would not be allowed as evidence in a courtroom, so why are you using them as one of your proofs?
2) You say in your bio that you are not a scientist, so how do you justify writing a blog article entitled “how to debunk chemtrails?” The title means you possess scientific evidence that chemtrails are a myth, or a false concept. Yet you have no scientific background in this matter. You most likely are not a goverrnment or military employee, so have no inside information as to what military pilots are doing. If you are simply stating a nonscientific opinion, I won't be able to use it as evidence in my quest to learn what the long vapor trails are.
3) Everything on your site which I have read (I have not read every word, so realize I may have missed something) relates to things outside of your own personal experience. For example, if you stated something such as “I am a small aircraft pilot, and indeed, I do remember when the skies were more clear prior to 1990. This is what I think happened to make the long vapor trails more prevalent today....” I would find you and your site more authentic. Because everything you have written is outside of your own experience, I find that your site is basically just a dumping ground of random information, which is fine, but your opinions should be muted, and articles such as “how to debunk chemtrails” should be read with a high degree of skepticism.
Can you perhaps share some of your own experiences with contrails? When is the first time you observed sky white out? Did you find it surprising, since it is a new phenomenon? Did it bother you at all, since most people find clear blue skies to be pleasant and enjoyable? Are you concerned about your health, knowing, if it is jet exhaust which is causing white out, you are breathing exhaust vapors into your lungs? What makes you believe sky white out is a contrail, since it is a recent phenomenon? (scanned/internet cloud photos cannot be used as evidence due to the possibility of manipulation)
4) Finally, I have seen internet videos of people calling you a shill, a spook, or some such entity, saying it is absurd a man with no scientific background is writing articles about debunking chemtrails. I don't know you, and have no opinion either way as to if you are employed by a govt. spook house or not. What I want to know is, if you are not a scientist, why do you call your site contrail science? Should it not be called, instead, contrail opinion?
Thank you for taking the time to read my letter.
Being a landscape photographer for 18 years (1991-2009), I did a lot of visual study of sky/clouds. I have no interest in the why or how of clouds, so won't pretend to have any scientific knowledge of sky life. My knowledge of clouds relates simply to visual memory, which I would like to believe is mostly accurate.
A few years ago, perhaps beginning in 2011, I began to notice planes leaving long, sky-wide vapors, white/gray in color. This by itself was something I had not seen before. Living in the Chicago area since childhood, which has a high concentration of air traffic, I was always looking up at the sky, and cannot recall a single instance of planes leaving long vapors. The most I would see was what I would call a contrail, a thin, short, white line, which quickly disappeared (a few seconds) after being emitted from the plane. Having a visual interest in the sky, I began to observe these vapors and discovered that instead of quickly dissipating, they would begin to spread across the sky, become slightly grayish, or a dull milk white color, and eventually mix with other vapor trails left by other planes, resulting with what I call a “white out” of the sky. This white out is something I cannot recall seeing prior to 2011.
Beginning in mid - 2012, and continuing to the present (2014), I noticed an increase in these plane vapors. They are now being left by planes on a daily basis. During the day in which I observe them (while out running), the planes and the resulting vapors are constant. It sometimes lasts from morning to evening. By noon the sky exhibits white out, and the light of day appears less intense, with the sun blocked over, as if covered in gauze. On certain rare days, the planes are completely absent, which causes the sky to exhibit its normal pre-2011 features - intense blue and clear. However, the next day, the planes and vapors return.
During the summer of 2012 I spent 4 months in SE Asia. Not once did I see a long vapor trail in the sky. When I returned to the USA the long vapor trails could be seen daily.
Doing some research on the internet, I came to learn of the term “chemtrails”, and two groups of people - those who believe the vapors are metallic compounds intentionally being sprayed from the planes, and those who believe that the vapors are caused by fuel/engine exhaust. As I said, I am not a scientist, and know nothing of aviation engineering, so have no idea what the planes are leaving behind.
Here are the facts which I am 99.9 % certain of -
1) Prior to 2011, I observed no long vapor trails left in the sky from airplanes. For visual proof, in case I want to question the validity of my memory, I have over 20,000 landscape film negatives (exposed from 1991-2009) which show not a single instance of long vapor trails in the sky.
2) From 2011-present, I began to observe long vapor trails, with the trails becoming more numerous and consistent in 2013-2014.
3) Sky white out occurs regularly in 2013-2014.
4) No long vapor trails seen in SE Asia in 2012.
Keeping these facts in mind, I perused the websites of both groups - the chemtrail believers, and the contrail believers. Knowing I am not the only one observing this sky change gives me confidence that my eyes, memory, and judgement are not going bad.
As to what they are called, I could care less. What I want to discover is if indeed the pilots are intentionally spraying substances into the atmosphere, which if they are, would lead to concern for the safety of the planet and its inhabitants. I know that your site claims that the pilots are not “spraying”, and are simply flying their planes in a normal way. Knowing your position, I would like to ask a few questions to help add to my knowledge of this subject.
1) You give examples of photographs prior to 1990 which show clouds resembling modern day jet trails. While these look convincing enough, I remind myself that I am looking at photos on the internet, which means each of these pictures has the potential to be manipulated (adding trail lines, etc). The scanned photos of pages from old cloud books could also be manipulated. I am not saying they have been, but the potential is there, and it could easily be done. Therefore, any pictures you show cannot be used as evidence, due to the possibility of manipulation. The only visual photo evidence which would be acceptable would be actual books which I hold in my hand. I have looked at some of these cloud books, and have not found any pictures with long vapor trails. I also have my own collection of 20,000 landscape film negatives which show no instances of long vapor trails.
If all of the photos you show on your site have the potential of being manipulated, why do you include/exhibit them as proof of long vapor trails existing prior to 1990? These photos would not be allowed as evidence in a courtroom, so why are you using them as one of your proofs?
2) You say in your bio that you are not a scientist, so how do you justify writing a blog article entitled “how to debunk chemtrails?” The title means you possess scientific evidence that chemtrails are a myth, or a false concept. Yet you have no scientific background in this matter. You most likely are not a goverrnment or military employee, so have no inside information as to what military pilots are doing. If you are simply stating a nonscientific opinion, I won't be able to use it as evidence in my quest to learn what the long vapor trails are.
3) Everything on your site which I have read (I have not read every word, so realize I may have missed something) relates to things outside of your own personal experience. For example, if you stated something such as “I am a small aircraft pilot, and indeed, I do remember when the skies were more clear prior to 1990. This is what I think happened to make the long vapor trails more prevalent today....” I would find you and your site more authentic. Because everything you have written is outside of your own experience, I find that your site is basically just a dumping ground of random information, which is fine, but your opinions should be muted, and articles such as “how to debunk chemtrails” should be read with a high degree of skepticism.
Can you perhaps share some of your own experiences with contrails? When is the first time you observed sky white out? Did you find it surprising, since it is a new phenomenon? Did it bother you at all, since most people find clear blue skies to be pleasant and enjoyable? Are you concerned about your health, knowing, if it is jet exhaust which is causing white out, you are breathing exhaust vapors into your lungs? What makes you believe sky white out is a contrail, since it is a recent phenomenon? (scanned/internet cloud photos cannot be used as evidence due to the possibility of manipulation)
4) Finally, I have seen internet videos of people calling you a shill, a spook, or some such entity, saying it is absurd a man with no scientific background is writing articles about debunking chemtrails. I don't know you, and have no opinion either way as to if you are employed by a govt. spook house or not. What I want to know is, if you are not a scientist, why do you call your site contrail science? Should it not be called, instead, contrail opinion?
Thank you for taking the time to read my letter.