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  1. Belfrey

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    ...exceed 50-200 ug/L aluminum (for aesthetic reasons, not a health requirement). That whole range is below what could be considered a normal average amount for rainwater. So if a lab is testing rainwater they might use a less-stringent method that can't reliably measure the lower concentrations.
  2. KC-10FE

    Is Contrail Science a CIA Disinformation site?

    I like how there are tshirts for sale on the same page
  3. Leifer

    What would it take, and how much would it cost, to test a "chemtrail"

    The "Leifer" guy in the above link^^ comments-section spelled it out, briefly ;). But Harold Saive avoided any comment. And this is a problem when (and if) any tests are taken, and presented for discussion. The results are either: * disbelieved because the source (who is taking the tests ?) *...
  4. Belfrey

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    She probably means (as mentioned elsewhere) that they might use a test with a higher minimum detectible level. Which would make sense, because the natural range of these elements is expected to be higher in rainfall than in drinking water.
  5. WeedWhacker

    Is Contrail Science a CIA Disinformation site?

    For the record, here is a thread where one can get properly informed: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/natural-abundance-of-strontium-and-barium.822/#post-99978
  6. Leifer

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    ......I can't understand what you are replying to?) Here is the text from the link.... From Ngaire Small of Nelson, New Zealand. I had rainwater that fell in Nelson on November the 18th, 2013, tested by R J Hill Laboratories Ltd of Hamilton. There had been consistent heavy aerosol spraying...
  7. Leifer

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    More NZ testing.....showing extremely low levels.....just above minimum detection levels. (g/m3 = mg/L.....they are the same number) https://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/rainwater-test-result-from-nelson-shows-aluminium-barium-strontium-present/ (also re-posted on H. Saive's site)
  8. David Fraser

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    ...pick up on a point from that post. Master gardener and retired USDA Biologist, Frances Mangels of California has found the that pH of rainwater rises from about 5.5 to about 6.8 in association with a large volume of aerosol geoengineering activity. The pH of rainwater in Whangarei...
  9. Mick West

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    ...i.e. individual points that are used to back up a broader theory. For example, the fact that high levels of aluminum are sometimes found in rainwater is used as evidence for the "chemtrails" theory. Claims of evidence can be debunked in one of two main ways Demonstrating that the evidence...
  10. David Fraser

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    Yes that's correct. However my issue is that they then claim toxic levels which is incorrect. It is mainly the soluble part of rainwater that exhibits toxicity. To be frank given that Aluminium Oxide is insoluble one would think they would be more interested in isolating that.
  11. derwoodii

    National geographic March 2015 hijacked

    ...a nuclear attack on the Soviet Union, unspools his paranoid worldview—and the explanation for why he drinks “only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure grain alcohol”—to Lionel Mandrake, a dizzy-with-anxiety group captain in the Royal Air Force. yet dr Mercola says its about...
  12. George B

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    ...water may contain more contaminates because it will not be filtered to remove un-dissolved solids which would happen if it were tested as rainwater . . . is that correct? And can this be why Meghan has recommended one should request tests for drinking water as opposed to rain water? So the...
  13. Wild Bill

    Debunked: "Rainwater Samples From Alachua County Florida Test Positive for Aluminum"

  14. Belfrey

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    It depends on the species. Many forest communities are adapted to fairly low soil pH, and some trees will show symptoms of iron and manganese deficiency (chlorosis - yellowing of leaves or needles) at pH near or above neutral, when those elements tend to be in insoluble forms. This is a common...
  15. MikeC

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    "Rainwater" is in quotes in the title because this sample was taken from a roof via the downpipes!! I have made a comment about the level of strontium measured - 0.0084g/m^3 is about 1/1000th the mean seawater concentration reported on wiki of about 8mg/l - so they must be very pleased to...
  16. Belfrey

    govsks' chemtrail questiions

    ...is abnormal, and must have come from aircraft. But these elements are naturally found in soil, dust and sediment. Saive's results are well within the normal range (actually on the low side) compared to the rainwater results reported in the historical literature going back for several decades.
  17. Mick West

    Is Contrail Science a CIA Disinformation site?

    Which just shows test after test showing expected results (especially given the lack of detail about how the samples were taken), and way lower than any of the limits they list. Their claim seems to be that the values should be zero, but as noted above, that's contrary to all known science.
  18. David Fraser

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    ...no confidence can be placed on the result except to say there is some. My concern is asking the sample to be treated as drinking water. A rainwater sample is usually filtered down to 0.45 um. This separates the soluble and insoluble fractions. Essentially you should be left with the stuff...
  19. Trailblazer

    Weatherman Acknowledges Military's Dumping of Chaff into The Atmosphere

    ...aluminium, on average, which is why I cannot help laughing when I see people getting all excited over a few hundred micrograms per litre in rainwater or whatever garbage it was. Besides, isn't the stuff being sprayed supposed to be aluminium oxide? Which is so biologically inert that it is...
  20. MikeC

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    And they are still doing it - Clare's latest effort even goes so far as to link to this thread, so she's well aware that the quantities reported are less than the health or guideline limits...and yet she's still happy to put up the full analysis that shows that and pretend it's something...
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