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  1. solrey

    Fukushima Radiation hitting the US/West Coast

    ...how to properly collect or test their samples resulting in their measuring no more than radon and it's decay products that have mixed with rainwater on roadways, then they sop up that water off the surfaces of their vehicles with a paper towel. They get high initial readings, of course, but...
  2. Mick West

    Will chemtrails or covert geoengineering show up in varves, ice cores, or tree rings?

    I think the paper describes it quite well: http://junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/solomon-07-22-11.pdf Jay also posted this link: http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/bams-sotc/climate-assessment-2011-lo-rez.pdf SIDEBAR 2.3: LONG-TERM CHANGES OF ATMOSPHERIC SOLAR TRANSMISSION—E...
  3. Mick West

    JazzRoc versus "Chemtrails"

    No, Jazzy was quoting someone else further up the thread. This is one of the problems of the internet, the "stickiness" of old stories. Much like the KSLA "Barium in rainwater" story that was wrong, once something has been published it is very hard for it to be unpublished.
  4. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked- Dane Wigington's 10 "bullet" points regarding geoengineering

    ...plant or animal, and Wigington & Co. have not done so. Their analysis only tested for the total elemental concentration of aluminum in the rainwater. They found perfectly ordinary levels known for forty years and more, levels derived from suspended soil dust in the atmosphere, since about 8%...
  5. Des O

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    Interesting comments about those low SF rain water results. So they claim the wind wasn't right and the labs are crooked. Couldn't be that those planes were actually spraying nothing? Another post by Chemtrails Project trying to reinforce the idea that with no aluminum confirms that there is...
  6. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked: Geoengineering over Maui, Hawaii

    Here is Dr. Pang's analysis for the study:
  7. Jay Reynolds

    Chemical Composition of Rain and Snow - Aluminum, Barium, etc.

    ...4.4 × 10−9, 5.2 × 10−9, 4.8 × 10−9 and 1.0 × 10−8 g cm−3, respectively. A greater concentration of the elements, except Cu, was found in rainwater from convective storm showers as compared to extended rains. Statistical analyses suggest that Al and Mn in precipitation are largely soil derived...
  8. Mick West

    Chemical Composition of Rain and Snow - Aluminum, Barium, etc.

    These figures of the concentration of aluminum in rain and snow match WITWATS/Mangels figures quite well, 520 ug/l to 1120 ug/L
  9. Jay Reynolds

    Chemical Composition of Rain and Snow - Aluminum, Barium, etc.

    ...Michael J. Murphy constantly claims that his samples show abnormally high levels of aluminum in rainwater. An analysis of his own results proves his claim to be false. The average aluminum concentration in his samples was 484 ug/L. His samples show that average levels of aluminum in rain...
  10. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked: Geoengineering over Maui, Hawaii

    After many weeks of emailing and calling, I was able to receive a copy of a study done by Dr. Lorrin Pang who had rainwater samples taken in Maui, checked for aluminum levels, and attempted to correlate them with sightings of "chemtrails". Dr. Pang is the Maui County Health Officer and is known...
  11. Jay Reynolds

    How did pH get involved with chemtrails?

    Once the site owner, Thermit(Mark Steadham), delegated responsibility for the message board to others and left, the message board dwindled rapidly in popularity. That was around 2005-2007. There are not many people there now, but it was once the most visited message board of all. Currently...
  12. Jay Reynolds

    Francis Mangels Video for CBC conference

    here is a transcript: . Exactly, Steve. In fact though, the logical fallacy which has pervaded the whole Shasta Group's lab testing has been carried on with John Whyte's Chemtrails Project. This fallacy is known as "Cherry Picking". In this case, the cherry picking is a partial form...
  13. Mick West

    High barium levels in blood? ( Mohave, AZ?)

    I know Prison Planet is something of a lost cause, but I thought I'd try posting there, as the story cropped up. I was actually a little surprised that my first post was not immediately deleted, and the strongly pro-chemtrail-theory moderator KiwiClare, actually responded...
  14. Jay Reynolds

    A Conversation With Dr. Lenny Thyme from "What In The World Are They Spraying"

    ...actual testing that had been done, he had seen some tests shown to him by Francis Mangels, but only recalled a test on "snowmelt", none on rainwater at all. I told him that many more tests had been done on rainwater and I mentioned this more than once, but he insisted it was "just snowmelt"...
  15. Jay Reynolds

    Alachua County - the next cause celebre for aluminium in Rainwater?

    ...centered on the natural abundance and sources of aluminum in the environment, what we have found about pre-'chemtrails' aluminum levels in rainwater and snow. He eventually cut me off saying that if WITWATS wasn't enough to convince me, there was nothing he could do. I asked him to show...
  16. Mick West

    Debunked: Shasta Snow and Water Aluminum Tests.

    Here's an older version of Mangels' investigations: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/library/testing/california/private/Chemtrail%20pH%20reportshasta.doc
  17. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked: Suffolk County, NY Geoengineering Law

    ...Cindy Pikoulas' belief stems from viewing that movie as she dates her first belief to early in 2011. (Link) The movie says that rainwater samples which have been analyzed in a laboratory contain abnormal amounts of aluminum, barium, and strontium. The movie does not, however, explain...
  18. Des O

    Discussions with chemtrailers on facebook

    ...is heavy metals being put into our atmosphere by man. See this quick summary: • Aluminum is the most abundant metal in soil. So all rainwater results that show the various metals, and always including aluminum, can always be debunked as “soil in the air” contamination • The last 2...
  19. Mick West

    Debunked: Geoengineeringwatch.org water testing procedure

    ...jars AWAY FROM roofs, trees, plants, your dog....anything that can drop contaminents into the jar...clear open sky above the testing jar. Rainwater collected froma metal roof will give you a metals reading....no good. 4- Get all your samples into one jar (see "NOTE" above), seal with the lid...
  20. Mick West

    Wigington/West Geoengineering Debate

    ...not one liner but two, this is Firestone EPDM pond liner. It's biologically safe for fish, there is no water source into this pond except rainwater and well water. It has virtually no contact with dirt, soil or any type, kind, and that reading was high because it was taken near the bottom of...
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