INDENIABLE PROOF chemtrails is real

George B said:
I... have seen every method conceived by man fail because of error, deceit, greed, falsification, and by intention
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George B said:
the think tanks which I believe developed the programs and are the oversight of the operations have thought of everything and have computer simulated them over and over. . . .they don't make mistakes.. . .
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George- I hope you see the contradiction in your comments here...

The "think tanks" to which you seem to believe are infallible...are indeed staffed by huMANs- subject to all of the paths to failure as other humanoids.

The idea that "they don't make mistakes" seems naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
 
SR1419 said:
George- I hope you see the contradiction in your comments here...

The "think tanks" to which you seem to believe are infallible...are indeed staffed by huMANs- subject to all of the paths to failure as other humanoids.

The idea that "they don't make mistakes" seems naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
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"Don't make mistakes" . . . is simply an exaggeration for emphasis . . . they make very few mistakes and can keep a program like the Manhattan Project with over 130,000 people quiet for 25 years . . . that is what I mean . . .
 
25 years??

Didn't the Manhattan project start in 1941...and wasn't its existence clear to all by the end of 1945?

Didn't the Russians actually infiltrate the project with a spy or 2 ?
 
Mick said:
Yes, the Smyth Report was released in 1945. And a few spies.
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I was not aware of the Smyth report as was also this blog writer. . . . http://blog.cytalk.com/2010/01/33-c...out-to-be-true-what-every-person-should-know/

"The government never admitted to it, the media never reported on it, and people had no idea for over 25 years. *Project research took place at over thirty sites across the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom. The three primary research and production sites of the project were the plutonium-production facility at what is now the Hanford Site, the uranium-enrichment facilities at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and the weapons research and design laboratory now known as Los Alamos National Laboratory"
 
George B said:
I was not aware of the Smyth report...

"...and people had no idea for over 25 years"
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I find that statement confusing...as surely everyone was instantly aware of the program on August 6th, 1945.

But if I understand you correctly, you believe that an aerosol "injection" campaign could be run covertly (globally? or just over the US? Efficacy?) - even in today' internet-instant, social media, everyone with a camera in their back pocket world...?
 
SR1419 said:
I find that statement confusing...as surely everyone was instantly aware of the program on August 6th, 1945.

But if I understand you correctly, you believe that an aerosol "injection" campaign could be run covertly (globally? or just over the US? Efficacy?) - even in today' internet-instant, social media, everyone with a camera in their back pocket world...?
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Yes, I really do . . . Why? . . . becasue of the following . . .

I think the persistent contrails and contrail induced cirrus cloud banks are an integral part of the whole campaign . . .


The program is in my opinion a combination of leverage. . . it is a matrix of the knowledge of pre-existing natural and anthropomorphic activities supplemented by activities to gain some pre-establish objective. . .

1) The overseers could have influenced policy to not mitigate persistent contrails . . . Seeking to propagate as much contrails and contrail induced cirrus as possible

2) They could have influenced the decision to slow roll the tightening of the sulfur maximum content of jet fuel which has remained at 3,000 ppm while other standards have been lowered to levels in the double digits. . . .

3) The above activities could help mask any activity which may have been visible by increasing the confusion in the skies. . . If I do inject aerosols . . .which one of the hundreds up there is the real Chemtrail. . .And if it is sulfur I am adding . . .I expect some to be there anyway. . .
 
George B said:
Yes, I really do . . . Why? . . . becasue of the following . . .



1) The overseers could have influenced policy to not mitigate persistent contrails . . . Seeking to propagate as much contrails and contrail induced cirrus as possible. .
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Have you found any evidence of this?

Any policy discussions where contrail mitigation was discussed and/or promoted and then subsequently discarded?

Have you looked at the cost benefit analysis of contrail mitigation? Have you taken into account variables of which the "overseers" have no control...such as atmospheric conditions?

Is this a global cabal? How do the "overseers" control contrail mitigation globally?

Have you found any evidence of an increase in persistent contrails that is not consistent with increased air traffic and engine design?
 
 
MikeC said:
to paraphrase someone about lips moving ......I see the words...but I don't see any information.

This is just gobbledygook - meaningful words strung together to make nonsense.


You forgot the first question - what overseers?
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Congressional-Military-Industrial Complex and their proxies. . .
 
SR1419 said:
Have you found any evidence of this?

Any policy discussions where contrail mitigation was discussed and/or promoted and then subsequently discarded?

Have you looked at the cost benefit analysis of contrail mitigation? Have you taken into account variables of which the "overseers" have no control...such as atmospheric conditions?

Is this a global cabal? How do the "overseers" control contrail mitigation globally?

Have you found any evidence of an increase in persistent contrails that is not consistent with increased air traffic and engine design?
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Why would I. . . .visibility is only coincidental to atmospheric conditions for contrails or CHEMTRAILs. . . Short lived and not guaranteed for either. . .
 
George B said:
Congressional-Military-Industrial Complex and their proxies. . .
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More lips moving but no information coming out.....just meaningless generalisations.

so - having decided you're trolling the other thread, and giving you the benefit of my limited doubt on this one, you've just persuaded me you have no interest in any meaningful debate at all here either.

You are an information-free waste of time - a troll - and one of the less interesting or entertaining ones because there are some that are at least coherent and entertaining!
 
MikeC said:
More lips moving but no information coming out.....just meaningless generalisations.

so - having decided you're trolling the other thread, and giving you the benefit of my limited doubt on this one, you've just persuaded me you have no interest in any meaningful debate at all here either.

You are an information-free waste of time - a troll - and one of the less interesting or entertaining ones because there are some that are at least coherent and entertaining!
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That is your opinion. . . You have a perfect right to hold it. . .

I am dead serious regarding my position. . . .

I have worked inside the "complex" and have very strong experiences that have convinced me of their power, capabilities and what they are willing to do to accomplish any goal . . .
 
What were those experiences? All you've related so far is that they don't like reports that challenge the prevailing wisdom, or imperil the department's funding.
 
George B said:
That is your opinion. . . You have a perfect right to hold it. . .

I am dead serious regarding my position. . . .

I have worked inside the "complex" and have very strong experiences that have convinced me of their power, capabilities and what they are willing to do to accomplish any goal . . .
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It`s my opinion also...

You can`t be serious based on the empty nothingness you try to pass off as 'evidence'. It`s mildly amusing because it`s funny. Not because it is serious.
 
MICH said:
What were those experiences? All you've related so far is that they don't like reports that challenge the prevailing wisdom, or imperil the department's funding.
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The experiences were at the beginning and at the end of my career. . . Those are the times I was involved with the big decision makers and big money. . . .in between I primarily did my operational job clinical pathology which involved almost anything that went bad within my jurisdiction . . . Assault, rape, suicide, fatalities, any aircraft accident, diagnosis of disease, etc. . . .Dealing with the group inside the beltway and their corporate counterparts is an eye opener. . . million dollar projects turn into billion dollar projects in the blink of an eye and without rational explanation. . . Official meetings are usually a ruse for public consumption, the real decisions are made deep in the bowels of the beast. . .deception rules . . . Money is dust. . . People are bought and sold. . . I really don't know how the government really functions and the wheels of the country keep turning. . .
 
George B said:
The experiences were at the beginning and at the end of my career. . .Dealing with the group inside the beltway and their corporate counterparts is an eye opener. . ..
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Those were YOUR experiences...your interpretation of which are subject to your pre-existing biases and beliefs.

Your experiences are a single string of data that is but one data set in millions...do you truly believe- and expect others to believe that your interpretations of your experiences are in fact the only possible "truth"?

Is it possible that others with similar exposure to "the group inside the beltway and their corporate counterparts" have come away with different experiences and interpretations?

Do you really just lump "the group inside the beltway and their corporate counterparts" into one big set all with the same modus operandi?

Your biases skew your interpretations of your experiences which then skew your "intuition"...
 
George B said:
I really don't know how the government really functions and the wheels of the country keep turning. . .
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If you have such a low opinion of the government, then how on earth do you think they pulled off the decades long multi-faceted chemtrails conspiracy without slipping up.

It's the illusion of extreme competence that underlies conspiracy theories like 9/11 controlled demolotion. You experience seems to reveal only the human frailties of incompetence and corruption. Not the hyper-competent parallel society that would be required for your theories to be plausible.
 
Mick said:
If you have such a low opinion of the government, then how on earth do you think they pulled off the decades long multi-faceted chemtrails conspiracy without slipping up.

It's the illusion of extreme competence that underlies conspiracy theories like 9/11 controlled demolotion. You experience seems to reveal only the human frailties of incompetence and corruption. Not the hyper-competent parallel society that would be required for your theories to be plausible.
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What appears to be a paradox is not. . . .the elected government is in chaos not the institutions that manipulate it. . . .
 
My last post on this thread.
George is not posting any substance or anything meaningful.
 
Stupid said:
My last post on this thread.
George is not posting any substance or anything meaningful.
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LoL!!!! . . . This isn't my thread, it was started by one of your own . . . the title was suppose to be facetious . . . see below . . .

03-03-2012, 10:57 AM#1Unregistered
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INDENIABLE PROOF chemtrails is real

I have a many indeniable proofs that chemtrails is real. 1. Meanwhile, a contrail remains a contrail whiles a chemtrail remains a chemtrail. 2. Wake up! 3. Sheeple. 4. U R an SHIL. 5. CHEMTRAIL! 6. CHEMTRAIL! 7. Ad homimim. 8. ORBS!!! 9. Chemtrail persists, while contrail evaporates INSTANTLY ALWAYS. 10. ORBS!!! 11. SKY is not always blue! 12. It is 11:50!!!!! 13. I had a runny nose for 2 days! 14. Explains spray nossle with big fan on front under wings????! 15. I'm right!!
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Hey guys, OP here (still need to register!). Not in the mood to debate right now, as I just spent two hours explaining to a worried little sister how facebook is hurting her.

Anyways, I just wanted to say that I am impressed with the mature and respectful dialogue I see between those with different beliefs on this forum. Well, at least in the limited number of threads I have read. In light of my first post, I realize that the hypocrisy in this statement does undermine my integrity. For that, I apologize for an antagonizing post. I was wrong to assume this forum would serve as a tollish outlet for my frustration with CTers.

Sorry!

George B., I completely disagree with you. I also have respect for you. You respond and argue reasonably. Thanks for reminding me that "everyone has their reasons."

Sometimes I forget that with all the disrespectful and ill-spirited back-and-forth.....on both sides.
 
Unregistered Guest said:
Hey guys, OP here (still need to register!). Not in the mood to debate right now, as I just spent two hours explaining to a worried little sister how facebook is hurting her.

Anyways, I just wanted to say that I am impressed with the mature and respectful dialogue I see between those with different beliefs on this forum. Well, at least in the limited number of threads I have read. In light of my first post, I realize that the hypocrisy in this statement does undermine my integrity. For that, I apologize for an antagonizing post. I was wrong to assume this forum would serve as a tollish outlet for my frustration with CTers.

Sorry!

George B., I completely disagree with you. I also have respect for you. You respond and argue reasonably. Thanks for reminding me that "everyone has their reasons."

Sometimes I forget that with all the disrespectful and ill-spirited back-and-forth.....on both sides.
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Thank You! I am here to share my thoughts . . . they may or may not be appreciated . . . but I am learning quite a bit from the interaction . . . I believe people develop the way they think and understand reality based on their particular genetic constitution and experiences . . . I will not process information like many here . . . I don't think that is unusual . . .
 
Looks like the conspiracy is spreading .....
Formula One is now doing it as well



(just kidding of course)
 
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Just out of curiosity, has there been any mention of chemtrails or the like in any of the Wikileaks released documents? The ones that are uncovering so many of the things that the various governments want to keep secret?
No, I didn't think so ....
 
GregMc said:
I've read numerous places where the Conspiracy nuts are claiming that wikileaks is all part of the NWO conspiracy and wikileaks is all a psyops operation to kick off the Arab spring uprisings for oil wars etc, and if wiki was real it would have spilled the beans on Roswell, Chemtrails, 911, reptillians and the usual bunk

Here's Crazy Clare's take: http://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/06/26/wikileaks-founder-drops-mass-spying-hint/
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Cherry-picking information will always give you the information you want.
 
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