Strange Spinning UFO Filmed in Green Valley, Illinois September 2024

[Mick West]

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/comments/1qnfjls/strange_spinning_ufo_filmed_in_green_valley/

I think this is an effect I've not seem before. The car engine is slightly rocking the car as it idles. This is moving the camera and makes it look like the object (probably venus) is moving in circles.

Here I've zoomed in on one of the ground lights, so you can see it's moving in a similar way:

 

[deirdre]

I think this is an effect I've not seem before.

something like stephenville?
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/stephenville-texas-ufo-2008.13446/post-314821

the footage isnt on tubi anymore but can buy the episode on amazon (UFO Hunters season1 episode 10, texas invasion)..you might not think its a good enough match and be mad you wasted 1.99 to check it they do the camera experiments around 17 mins in. amazon isnt letting me screenshot it, just getting the black screen when activating a screengrabber.

(ignore the original ufo ribbon stuff...just look at their test footage. i see similarities.)

 

[Mick West]

amazon isnt letting me screenshot it, just getting the black screen when activating a screengrabber.

In Chrome, go to:
chrome://settings/system
Turn off "Use graphics acceleration when available", and relauch Chrome.
Then you should be able to screenshot streaming video.

 

[Mick West]

something like stephenville?

Somewhat similar, but those are more squiggly lines from long exposure. Here, the exposure is relatively short, so we actually see the motion of the light. Venus is about the only thing that makes sense, as it's often visible well before other stars, and towards the sunset.

 

[deirdre]

Somewhat similar, but those are more squiggly lines from long exposure. Here, the exposure is relatively short, so we actually see the motion of the light. Venus is about the only thing that makes sense, as it's often visible well before other stars, and towards the sunset.

i edited my original post.. its not the stephenville ufo footage ie ribbony..that matches..., its their test footage that has some similar sections. they basically build an overly complicated shaking device.. but i bet if you started your car and put the camera or your elbows on the window sill and filmed a star youd get a similar effect to their tests.

 

[Mick West]

https://www.metabunk.org/sitrec/?cu...com/1/Green Valley Spinner/20260127_001134.js

Sitrec confirms in September 2024, Venus was about that position relative to the sun at sunset.

 

[Mick West]

i edited my original post.. its not the stephenville ufo footage ie ribbony..that matches..., its their test footage that has some similar sections. they basically build an overly complicated shaking device.. but i bet if you started your car and put the camera or your elbows on the window sill and filmed a star youd get a similar effect to their tests.

Yeah, I was considering that. But I think I might try making an overly complicated shaking device instead.

 

[deirdre]

But I think I might try making an overly complicated shaking device instead.

yup. that's why i linked it.

 

[sigmops]

A couple of years ago I saw a video similar to this that was recorded by someone on the back of a loudly idling and surely vibrating ATV. I am guessing the optical image stabilization (OIS) in some cell phone cameras can break or malfunction causing exaggerated effects like this when placed under seemingly everyday vibrations.

i tried searching for OIS defect videos and got this one which doesn't seem quite right since this malfunctioning camera doesn't appear to be on a vibrating platform, but instead erroneously compensating for nothing. However perhaps the effect seen at the start of this well-lit video might look like the the redditor's if it was filming a star at night?


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DQYfwG4v9Q

 

[deirdre]

Sitrec confirms in September 2024, Venus was about that position relative to the sun at sunset.

what about this time. Occurred: 2024-09-30 19:18 Local

https://nuforc.org/sighting/?id=183...xX5mvffuEEbX2uPGrX_aem_9qZDLTeQVHWXudtWYaf1sw

 

[deirdre]

location looks decent. maybe?
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.421883,-89.63549,3a,42.2y,229.04h,89.39t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1svmIYiQi1dFK9G3kBfG-9Tg!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=0.6085999267144331&panoid=vmIYiQi1dFK9G3kBfG-9Tg&yaw=229.03763428844078!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDEyMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==

 

[Mick West]

what about this time. Occurred: 2024-09-30 19:18 Local

https://nuforc.org/sighting/?id=183...xX5mvffuEEbX2uPGrX_aem_9qZDLTeQVHWXudtWYaf1sw

Same basic thing. Venus does not move much relative the sun over a few days.

https://www.metabunk.org/sitrec/?cu...com/1/Green Valley Spinner/20260127_051057.js

 

[Mick West]

location looks decent. maybe?

Very nearby, if not exact. And they are looking SW, towards Venus

 

[deirdre]

Very nearby, if not exact. And they are looking SW, towards Venus

yea

you gotta back the car up a bit and be lower than the google car .. but the rhino nose is the same so i really think that's it.

 

[FatPhil]

I think this is an effect I've not seem before. The car engine is slightly rocking the car as it idles. This is moving the camera and makes it look like the object (probably venus) is moving in circles.

At that frequency (100bpm-ish) it resembles with what I've seen from my own pulse when fully zoomed in on things. So you might not need to build any camera shaking device, you might just need to jog around your lot a few times, until you're heart's ready to play the part.

 

[jdog]

A couple of years ago I saw a video similar to this that was recorded by someone on the back of a loudly idling and surely vibrating ATV. I am guessing the optical image stabilization (OIS) in some cell phone cameras can break or malfunction causing exaggerated effects like this when placed under seemingly everyday vibrations.

i tried searching for OIS defect videos and got this one which doesn't seem quite right since this malfunctioning camera doesn't appear to be on a vibrating platform, but instead erroneously compensating for nothing. However perhaps the effect seen at the start of this well-lit video might look like the the redditor's if it was filming a star at night?

It probably doesn't apply to smartphone cameras, but if you have an SLR lens with image stabilization (which lets you get an extra stop or two of exposure out of handheld shooting) the manuals say to turn image stabilization off when you're using the camera on a tripod because it will introduce errors.

 

[Mick West]

I posted the explanation on that Reddit group, but was downvoted and banned for violation of their Rule #1: "No debunkers"

 

[deirdre]

I posted the explanation on that Reddit group, but was downvoted and banned for violation of their Rule #1: "No debunkers"

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it must not be a very popular group/channel/whatever, there's not much interaction on that thread.

 

[Mick West]

I did a somewhat slapdash experiment with a flashlight behind some cardboard with a pinhole. The camera (iPhone 15) is on a tripod, and I used a drill with an offset weight for vibration.

It was a bit too violent, and then I had to abort the experiment as I'd used my most powerful flashlight, and the cardboard caught fire (you can see it start to burn through at the end)

 

[deirdre]

I did a somewhat slapdash experiment with a flashlight behind some cardboard with a pinhole. The camera (iPhone 15) is on a tripod, and I used a drill with an offset weight for vibration.

It was a bit too violent, and then I had to abort the experiment as I'd used my most powerful flashlight, and the cardboard caught fire (you can see it start to burn through at the end)

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that definitely needs to go in the stephenville thread!

 

[deirdre]

It was a bit too violent

does your dog thump his leg on the floor when you scratch under his ear? if you use that as the vibration, it would be the worlds cutest vibration engine.

 

[sigmops]

Here are two examples that might be showing the same effect uploaded to Instagram by golfer Jimmy Walker


Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/B_oLbT1pIfZ/?img_index=1



Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/B_oLbT1pIfZ/?img_index=2

 

[deirdre]

Here are two examples that might be showing the same effect uploaded to Instagram by golfer Jimmy Walker

interesting. one camera fix video said the shaking could be specific apps (software glitches) and one of the ones he named was instagram.

 

[deirdre]

is this a real thing?

Impossible_Rip6983
•1y ago

So your camera floats in a 6axis pattern to provide smoother filming. Your engine running in a circular pattern (RPM) is causing the lense wiggle in a circle pattern as it's trying to smooth your video

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexplained/comments/1h7u5zt/so_this_happened_in_colorado_all_lights_and/


add: im going with this response:

The city was buffering.

 

[deirdre]

@John J. @Mick West @GM4AJK
umm.. why are people liking my post? is it the "city buffering" joke or.. do engines really vibrate in circles because i'm pretty sensitive and can't say ive ever thought the engine vibration under my bum felt circular.

??

 

[John J.]

umm.. why are people liking my post?

For me, the video is an excellent example of light sources apparently moving in circular-ish motions when filmed from a dashcam or cellphone in a car with an idling engine.

There isn't anything extraordinary going on (though it is interesting), and the individual lights are describing ellipses like the 2024 Green Valley UFO in post #1. It is strong evidence for Mick West's theory.

I know very little about photography/ cellphone filming, and I don't know if the explanation given by Reddit user Impossible_Rip6983 is correct,
but I think the video you posted is good evidence that the vibrations caused by a car engine can cause apparent elliptical movements of lights being filmed by a camera mounted/ well supported in the car.
(And I liked the buffering joke).

 

[GM4AJK]

why are people liking my post?

I just like it when people go to the trouble of finding additional artefacts (videos, photos, etc.) that present the world as we don't normally see it, as examples of what it could have been.

 

[JMartJr]

is it the "city buffering" joke or.. do engines really vibrate in circles because i'm pretty sensitive and can't say ive ever thought the engine vibration under my bum felt circular.

Maybe both. It's a good joke, and since the engine shaft causing the vibrations is spinning so making a circular track seems reasonable.

 

[John J.]

If anyone has a laser pointer thingy, maybe attach it to the car with its engine idling, perhaps facing a garage door or other suitable surface.
(Careful of the paintwork, though!)

If the beam describes a circle/ ellipse on the "target", it's evidence the ellipses in the videos are probably caused by direct physical vibration of the camera (and the car it's in), not some processing artefact caused by the camera attempting to deal with vibration or whatever.

I think. Maybe.

 

[Mick West]

Maybe both. It's a good joke, and since the engine shaft causing the vibrations is spinning so making a circular track seems reasonable.

Significant vibrations are most likely caused by the cylinders. The offset mass displacement will then interact with the suspension, which may translate it into a more circular motion, and then that interacts with the image stabilization.

The Colorado example was on an iPhone 13. It's possible quite specific to the iPhone model. I remember my previous iPhone (I think a 13) was poor at stabilizing video taken on my bike, lots of vibration. Sadly, I now have a 16, which has better stabilization.

 

[deirdre]

Significant vibrations are most likely caused by the cylinders. The offset mass displacement will then interact with the suspension, which may translate it into a more circular motion, and then that interacts with the image stabilization.

apparently it was uploaded to the same Reddit group last year and the responses are more "phone vibration" than aliens.. so debunkers werent banend then. Must just be you
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/comments/1hf3t6l/strange_spinning_ufo_filmed_in_green_valley/


youtube from last year calls it a boomerang. ?? not alot of responses, but one also saying car vibrations.