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I'd differentiate between debunking the existence of aliens or God, and debunking that a particular incident resulted from aliens flying by or a direct intervention by God. The latter seems doable, and more likely to be accepted by at least...

Then you've misunderstood @jarlrmai's point and comitted a category error. He's not discussing individual cases to which light can be borne, he's discussing the class of all UAP reports: no matter how good a sensor is, there will always be a...

Absolutely. If my sensor can clearly resolve a balloon at 1 mile, and balloons at 1.1 miles can be detected but not resolved (and so become UAP), I can build a better sensor and resolve balloons at 2 miles -- at which point balloons at 2.1 miles...

And in reality we've been doing that for a pretty long time, sure mostly without the explicit goal, and nothing has emerged.

Yes that’s exactly what it is on my photo - it appears there at certain zoom levels in all my photos that have a plain background. I just posted it as illustration. Not sure if the thing in Todd’s photo is though, it doesn’t seem sufficiently out...

Absolutely. If my sensor can clearly resolve a balloon at 1 mile, and balloons at 1.1 miles can be detected but not resolved (and so become UAP), I can build a better sensor and resolve balloons at 2 miles -- at which point balloons at 2.1 miles...

It is more than stuff in sky like UFOs; UAP is defined as an anomalous phenomenon encountered in any Earth environment, including oceans.

I think they are mostly unidentified stuff in the sky, I don’t think they mean aliens more than “UFO” did when it was invented.

Then you've misunderstood @jarlrmai's point and comitted a category error. He's not discussing individual cases to which light can be borne, he's discussing the class of all UAP reports: no matter how good a sensor is, there will always be a...

Can anyone explain why UAP seems to mean aliens more than UFO ever did? No one here seems to know what to use or what each one even means. I admit I'm in the same boat.

And in reality we've been doing that for a pretty long time, sure mostly without the explicit goal, and nothing has emerged.

I totally agree with you both, didn't mean to argue against that. I completely understand your point: by definition, once a phenomenon is fully resolved by a sensor, it ceases to be a UAP and becomes a known object. The reports inherently live on...

Then you've misunderstood @jarlrmai's point and comitted a category error. He's not discussing individual cases to which light can be borne, he's discussing the class of all UAP reports: no matter how good a sensor is, there will always be a...

Once we know it, they won't be UFOs

Then you've misunderstood @jarlrmai's point and comitted a category error. He's not discussing individual cases to which light can be borne, he's discussing the class of all UAP reports: no matter how good a sensor is, there will always be a...