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Once we know it, they won't be UFOs

This is totally off topic for this thread, however if an anecdote and a fuzzy photo is a "good example", can you provide the source for this so we can start a dedicated thread? There is no sense in debating the merits of this case, or others in...

This only show that when witnesses give good enough informations the cases can get resolved. It does not mean that when cases remained unresolved the witnesses gave good informations.

This is totally off topic for this thread, however if an anecdote and a fuzzy photo is a "good example", can you provide the source for this so we can start a dedicated thread? There is no sense in debating the merits of this case, or others in...

No-one does or ever will, UFOs will just move to the gaps.

No-one does or ever will, UFOs will just move to the gaps.

No one claimed astronomers are hiding anything. My point is that "80 years of serious academic studies" didn't happen because academia never had the data. Historically, projects like Blue Book were military intelligence operations, not open...

The problem is the UFOs can (and do) always just move into the gaps and low information zones of whatever sensors you have deployed. However at some point you sort of have to do a reset, you take all these reports and recordings from the past...

What I meant is that I do not claim that there is definitive proof of yet unexplained phenomena in the UFO topic. I know no more than you do, I'm pointing out that if that were the case, we would still have to go through data which, in most...

Astronomy is not limited to deep space there's a lot of wide angle astronomy; Vera C. Rubin, ZTF for transients (at Palomar ala the recent controversial transients linked to nuclear tests study), Pan-STARRS, ATLAS etc Then there's web camera...

I think you misunderstand wave motion. Waves are water that's going up and down, not traveling forwards, and the apparent motion of a wave does not mean that the water itself is moving at that speed.

Fair distinction. I completely agree with that framing. Debunking specific events with hard data is absolutely doable and necessary. My point was strictly about the general, faith-based belief system, which, as you noted, remains virtually...

So by "That's all I'm saying." you meant "But I'm not saying that"? More clarity required. I notice that your responses to several people have basically been "that's not what I'm saying", so lack of clarity seems to be a systemic issue. Maybe...

Academic science is being conducted every day by real astronomers, physicists, and engineers. Obviously, they're (for the most part) not studying flying saucers and space ghosts, because these are not real things, but they teach us more about our...

I'd differentiate between debunking the existence of aliens or God, and debunking that a particular incident resulted from aliens flying by or a direct intervention by God. The latter seems doable, and more likely to be accepted by at least...