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  • Ann K
    But "classified", no matter the organization or the location, is something that we just have to deal with. No amount of wishful thinking is going to change that. You have two choices, the hard one or the easy one. Hard one: 1. Get yourself, by...
  • Gary C
    To be really honest, I don't care about true believers. Debunking "their aliens" is kinda like "debunking god" for Christians. It's just impossible, no amount of evidence supporting other plausible claims is ever gonna convince them of anything...
  • Fritzkquzerk
    I get your example, but if there was one telling you "one might be red", then one MIGHT be. That's all I'm saying.
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to Giddierone's post in the thread The "Amoco Alien" with Like Like.
    (slightly off topic but kind of related to the art imitating life imitating art loop). I just realised that Max Headroom is a character played by Matt Frewer, who played a government insider character in the Spielberg related UFO abduction...
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to John J.'s post in the thread The "Amoco Alien" with Agree Agree.
    The Amoco alien was meant to be a "realistic" depiction of an alien conforming to popular culture depictions/ "experiencer" reports of that time (which are much the same now). At approx. 37 mins 33 secs into the video Bob Ochsler says The fact...
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to jdog's post in the thread The "Amoco Alien" with Funny Funny.
    He's bigger on the inside!
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to flarkey's post in the thread Psionics at Contact in the Desert with Like Like.
    This, and the thought that science only makes advances when it proposes things that have not been considered or discovered before, so we should always consider the existence and presence of NHI or aliens. The common analogy is that people didn't...
  • Ann K
    I agree with you, we are forced to trust their analysis which is hidden from us. They are probably getting some stuff wrong (just because mistakes always happen), and it's frustrating not to be able to independently analyze their data and confirm...
  • Eburacum
    Yeah. And if it is a real enemy development, would you still trust their “transparency”? That’s all i’m saying, their science is classified, so they’re not really “doing science” in a classic, open, academical way.
  • Ann K
    They also seem to have discarded this radar data at a later date, so this 'formal confirmation' can't be examined in detail. We are relying on human memories and second-hand accounts.
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to Giddierone's post in the thread The "Amoco Alien" with Like Like.
    (slightly off topic but kind of related to the art imitating life imitating art loop). I just realised that Max Headroom is a character played by Matt Frewer, who played a government insider character in the Spielberg related UFO abduction...
  • Ann K
    Ann K replied to the thread The "Amoco Alien".
    Yes, they can. Any visit to a natural history museum can demonstrate that. This is a realistic model BASED ON the fossilized remains of dinosaurs, which is of course all the researchers have to study. Things like skin coloration of the animal are...
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  • Giddierone
    Giddierone replied to the thread The "Amoco Alien".
    (slightly off topic but kind of related to the art imitating life imitating art loop). I just realised that Max Headroom is a character played by Matt Frewer, who played a government insider character in the Spielberg related UFO abduction...
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  • Mauro
    I replicated it. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcNPPXyq_U Swiping my finger across this video when viewed full screen gives a very convincing illusion that it affected the region I swiped over.
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to RTM's post in the thread Psionics at Contact in the Desert with Like Like.
    Isn’t this kind of faulty thinking at the heart of recent UFOology: it’s not impossible an unidentified object is NHI, therefore the probability it is NHI is 50%.
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