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  • MonkeeSage
    MonkeeSage reacted to Arthur 33's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    I think flare is still probably the best guess. But it's not a perfect match (see video I posted of flares with military IR). Whatever it is it is VERY VERY hot/bright. Like the sun but smaller in size. And if the trail represents the movement of...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to Kyle Ferriter's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    And if the 14:06:17 at the bottom is the time of recording within the video, and the 5 is elevation angle and 115 is the bearing, then the hot point cannot be the sun. It does look like a different UI element style though, so could be the time on...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to Kyle Ferriter's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    It'd be useful to know what the background of the shot is. Is the 5 on the right hand side of the unredacted image the camera elevation angle above horizontal? Meaning the camera is essentially looking across the sky horizontally? Them redacting...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to john.phil's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    Did you watch the first two videos in post #73?
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    MonkeeSage reacted to JMartJr's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Agree Agree.
    I'm not ready to take a position on whether or not it is a parachute, but I don't think this point is compelling. In turbulence or in other conditions where the parachute and flare-or-whatever are moving about relative to one another(the chute...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to john.phil's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    Did you have a chance to watch the footage in post #73?
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    MonkeeSage reacted to john.phil's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Winner Winner.
    Enhanced footage of the sections where the parachute is most noticeable: This is the section of the footage where the parachute is most obvious: An example of a ground-launched, parachuting illuminating flare for comparison (from 01:41 to...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to Kyle Ferriter's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    Using the newly released video: https://www.dvidshub.net/video/1006088/dow-uap-pr38-unresolved-uap-report-middle-east-2013 At timestamp 51s in the video a shape becomes visible in the upper left corner. Later around 1m02s and 1m18s it is more...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to jarlrmai's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Like Like.
    The video shows the artefact maintains the same orientation throughout further strengthening the case it's a optical artefact.
  • MonkeeSage
    I've spotted a couple of errors in the descriptions and related MISREPs (originally in the DOW release) The correct Mission Report for PR-28 is: DOW-UAP-D25, Mission Report, Greece, January 2024 - (MISREP) A U.S. military operator reported...
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    Fox has an article with some pics supposedly from the gov release. A transcript of communications between Apollo 17 operators released in the disclosure Friday details the operators' exchange over the unknown phenomenon. "Now we've got a few...
  • purpleivan
    purpleivan reacted to Kyle Ferriter's post in the thread PR038: The "Chandelier" UFO with Informative Informative.
    I agree the longer straight line looks like a possible contrail. Though could be something else. If the background is the cold sky I'd expect a contrail to be darker, not lighter than it, in black-hot. I also was thinking about the viewing angle...
  • MonkeeSage
    The particles sound similar to the "fireflies" seen by astronaut John Glenn during Mercury-Atlas 6 in February 1962, and later identified as ice crystals by astronaut Scott Carpenter during Mercury-Atlas 7 in May 1962. Mercury-Atlas 7...
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    yoshy reacted to John J.'s post in the thread The Varginha UFO with Like Like.
    The film is not an impartial, unbiased investigation. Like many other UFO-related films, It takes it as axiomatic that something extraordinary happened. Claims are taken as evidence without consideration of more likely alternatives. You will be...
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    yoshy reacted to john.phil's post in the thread The Varginha UFO with Winner Winner.
    Varginha is a typical case in which ufologists connect dots between events that are unrelated until proven otherwise; are biased toward the extraordinary claim, and tend to believe any account they come across that might corroborate their bias...
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